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The Trix could have been so much more. Instead of building up and developing their characters he made jokes of them. Like there were three perfect opportunities for some neat back stories that covered why they act the way the do. But it wasn't used. Like really maybe they were bullied themselves, maybe one of them was in an abusive relationship (mother-daughter, father-daughter, boyfriend-girlfriend etc.) one where they were the one being dominated. And so now they want to be in control. But no, we get nothing.
The Red Fountain boys could have had development. Why is Riven so butthurt all the damn time!?
There was potential with Musa's dead mother. How did she die? Just how much did it effect Musa?
Nabu and Layla. His death could have had a much bigger impact. Could have been far more emotional than Iginio made it.
And those are just a few examples.
If they aged the show with it's audience instead of dumbing it down for a new group of young kids, it could have been so much more. Now, honestly, I think it's too late to save. Which is a shame because it used to have so much potential. Sometimes I feel like the fans create more complex scenarios for this show.
You mean to turn it into a metaphor for transsexuality?Strongly doubt that you would get to see something like this in Winx Club.Even if it did happen,it would get censored in many countries(especially in USA).
I agree 100 %about the fact that Iginio should have given The Trix a background story.It sucks that Iginio's villains are one dimensional like Disney villains.Villains should have a background story and be more complex instead of just being"the evil people that are evil for no reason"Thats part of the reasons why I love anime,the villains have most of the time valid reasons for being evil and tragic backgrounds that can even make you feel sorry for them despite the fact that they did horrible things(for example:Nakago in Fushigi Yuugi).I think that your ideas for the Trix's background sound pretty good.I could also imagine that they parents died when they were little children in some kind of war against the fairies and thats why they hate fairies so much.I also hate the fact that Iginio after season 1 turned Trix into useless joke figures that have a crush on the main villain(the Trix from season 2,3,5, kinda remind me of the Dark Lovers from Mermaid Melody lol).
"The Red Fountain boys could have had development. Why is Riven so butthurt all the damn time!? "
I don't know if its true or if it has ever been referenced in the tv show but I read somewhere in a Winx forum that Riven's mother abandoned him when he was a child and thats why he acts like a jerk.
I again agree with you that the Red Fountain boys should have developed more.We don't really know anything about them with the expection of our "dear Prince Charming"Sky.
"There was potential with Musa's dead mother. How did she die? Just how much did it effect Musa? "
The death of Musa's mother was actually explained in season 2.It is explained that Musa's parents were poor and when Musa's mother become ill there wasn't enough money to buy medication and she died.Musa's father gave up his music career out of grief and refused to let Musa become a singer.
"Nabu and Layla. His death could have had a much bigger impact. Could have been far more emotional than Iginio made it."
Iginio actually did his best to make this death as emotional as he could.I personally think that its pretty unfair that Nabu had to die because he was the best male character.He and Layla were actually my favorite couple and they had so many plans for the future(getting married and creating a family).It would have been far more interesting and shocking if Iginio would have found the strength to kill his favorite boy Sky.It would have been original for once if the main male character would die.
As for now there is no hope for Winx Club to become a complex story.Season 7 looks like some childish crap that is only suited for 5 year old girls and I strongly doubt that I will watch it.Like I have said before I think that the show was ruined by Iginio greed.He knows that if he makes the show more appealing to children it will have more child fans that are willing to buy plenty of Winx Club merchandise.He also seems to think that the only way he can continue the fame of Winx Club is by having more child viewers.
Regardless of whether or not this is a children's show or medium, it had potential to get across really in depth ideas and situations. In the first few seasons, the characters dealth with: divorce, loss of a loved one, the lack of confidence and fitting in and sense of self--and these are all really strong motifs to go by when creating a show that could expose children watching it to some of the harsh realities of life. Although I don't mind the themes of friendship and kindness and believing in yourself, as those are great things to express in your magnum opus, if you will, but the darker side of life always helps build more dynamic characters. Even though most of us discovered this show when we were little, re-watching it, you kind of long for more serious discussions to be brought up--even though you know it's not going to happen.
Dealing with loneliness, depression, bullying--those are things [sadly] a lot of people can relate to, which is why characters that deal with these issues resound so much with the audience. Why do so many people like Raven from "Teen Titans"? Because she's an antisocial book worm who has problems controlling her emotions. Why do women idolize Temperance Brennan (Bones) or Pam Beasley (The Office)? It's because they're relatable in their personalities and interests. The show touches on these issues, with characters like Mirta, Lucy, and even Bloom when she first joins Alfea. But these are all quickly swept under the rug, as if putting anymore emphasis on these scenes would be "too boring" or "too much to handle" for the seven to nine year olds who watch the show.
Kids mediums don't have to be something pandering, and something made for girls [in mind] doesn't always have to be about friendship and fashion. Do you know how many things we already have like that? It's the same formula over and over again, and it's always the shows that take themselves seriously that wind up sticking more with audiences than the ones who just use the same stuff everyone else has used a hundred times before. Winx HAD potential to be complex and stand out from the Barbie shows and the Bratz movies and the MyScene charade and the Disney princesses and the Tinker Bell movies and even the animes that is took inspiration from. But as the show went on, they played it safe, which is what really killed it for me.
Stuff for kids can be challenging and daring. Take stuff from Hayao Miyazaki, for example. I've grown up with his works like "Kiki's Delivery Service", "Castle in the Sky", "Spirited Away", "Nausicaa"...and each of them were initially meant for younger kids in mind, since the protagonists tends to be children in their early teen years and most of the settings are fantasy based. Despite all that, the movies he brings are jam packed full of serious topics that have resounded with me forever. You can take risks and still give us a good product but no one does that anymore with kids. Everyone is so edgy and quick to judge anything their kids watch or listen to or read or even fucking wear, that younger generations won't be exposed to--well, "edgier" material until they have been deemed old enough to do so.
It would be amazing to see more cartoons that are embracing the idea of LGBTA+ characters, because, for real now, kids need to be exposed to sexuality. Most of the kids I know growing up were never comfortable or okay with discussing this perfectly normal part of life and part of growing up, so people who were gay, bi, trans*, pan, ace...whatever, they were never 100% comfortable discussing it with everyone they knew since we've grown up to question and fear and speculate this idea. Kids are accepting at a young age and don't care who you are as long as you treat them with respect. If we teach this openness when they're still little, they won't have to fear possibly growing up to realize they're a member of the gay community. It's very endearing to see something like that in a show or movie they grow up with, because it gives them a sense of belonging and that they're not the only one with these feelings. Fictional worlds and characters are very powerful and important things for children, teens, adults--anyone, so getting equal representation is something very important.
Which is why I would have loved to see more with Mirta; I would have loved to have more development with Layla, Musa, Flora--since they're people of color and little Asian, black, and Hispanic girls watching could feel a sense of pride and utter jubilation with these characters showing off their powers and interesting character; I would have loved to see more from the Trix, because there are those who only ever connect with the bad guys and seeing their motives and more to their personalties would have really helped someone relate even more to their characters; I would have loved to see more growth with the boys, so any little guys who were watching could find more in their heroes than just the average trope; I would have loved to see more dynamics worked with family from the Winx, as barely any "girl" cartoons show these relationships anymore; I would have loved the more serious focus on alienation, bullying, death, betrayal--than it was given in the show. I would have loved all these and more.
But alas, the show completely tanked for me when they went the "Ferngully" route and swapped out dynamic stories and characters for cardboard cut out villains, awfully and lazily slapped on messages, and cheesy songs that don't belong save for being time wasters.
This is what probably irks me the most. Like this is the area that there could very easily be good development...the area where most potential lies. No lie there. And what sucks is that they could have so much depth if he just put in the effort. Part of me thinks he doesn't know how to write villains. Honestly at this point I want any back story for them! I don't care if we just see them derping around (as kids) in a field or some shit. I guess that's how desperately I want him to actually appreciate and develop his villains. ONe 'for the lols' villain is cool but it's just poor or lazy writing when they are all that way. I guess that's what I get for watching a show aimed at little kids. They're writing for said little kids (even though their original audience is all grown up)...
That's what I like as well. It's why I love Regina Mills so much; her mother killed her lover right in front of her when she was a teen. She tried to bring him back from the dead, The Mad Hatter, Rumplstilskin, and Dr. Whale (lordy, this is hard to explain if you've never seen it) all promised her they could help her do that, but it was all just a plot to bring her to the dark side. Likewise that's why I love Azula so much. She's hella evil but her father is one abusive dildo machine and he pretty much used her as a weapon. Thanks, Icy having an alcoholic and abusive mother is a headcanon of mine. That's an interesting theory. Right! That really really grinds my gears. I mean it's a joke really. They were so strong and independent and what not. And suddenly they're just head over heels???
I don't think that's ever been mentioned in canon, at least not in the 4kids dub. That could be a fan theory. But who knows. That's another thing; Iginio doesn't really seem to have his own canon straight...a lot of plot holes. One minute Sparks is dead, the next it isn't.
Right! Iginio gets all tunnel visioned on certain characters (namely, Bloom and Sky) and only focuses on them. All his efforts and character building are put into those two and then the others are remotely neglected.
Oh right, yeah, yeah I remember that now. I think that was the scene where her mom said she couldn't hear the music anymore or something like that. I guess what I meant by how it impacted her is they could have showed it more rather than just telling. If that makes sense.
I might just be being biased because I don't like the Nick dub. I just didn't feel anything about it. Maybe because I was indifferent to his character? He really kind of was the best male character apart from Valtor darn shame really. I would have rather seen Brandon go, he's not as interesting and his death would have had a bigger impact. There was also a lot of potential there for that relationship. But nah, that was litterally killed. Right, Sky would have had more of an impact as well, but he'd never do it.
I can agree there. But I do think that earlier on back in like season 3 (maybe even 4) there was still potential to fix any damage and make the show really awesome. I know I'm not watching it. Icy was literally the only thing keeping me tied the show. In cutting she and her sisters out they severed my tie to the show. And butterflyrix??? No way. I liked Winx when it was sort of girl back in seasons 1-3, but this is too much. It was too much back in season 5. Like I said before he should have tried to mature the show with the fans he already had. The new audience didn't even like it. I completely agree there too. It was a failed attempt to sell merch. He also seems to think that the only way he can continue the fame of Winx Club is by having more child viewers. And that was his mistake. The children just didn't care for it. He ignored the fans whose attention he already had...ignored them when they wanted more mature themes...and tried to get a new audience all together.
Exactly what I'm saying, and cartoons do this all the time. Most all kids shows seem to have some adult themes in theme. That too...they already had some pretty mature themes going (but they didn't go overboard) I don't see why they just cast those aside. But then again Nick got its hands on it so... Same, I think a good balance of happy and dark themes is always good. That way the child isn't distraught but they can learn from what they watched and older fans can better enjoy it as well. Ah well, I guess those more serious discussions and themes are what fanfictions are for.
Right! And the fact that Mirta was a fairy in a witch's body...that's a very modern thing that a few people can relate to. Being able to relate with the characters and the themes makes the show just that much better and that much more believable. True that! The annoying thing is Winx used to have such a diverse group going on, now they're all either Bloom or Stella or a mix of the two. Bones is freaking awesome (I don't watch it much but), I can relate to Bones, she (if I remember right) likes that Booth guy but she's not the best at expressing it so to speak. Winx needs--and very well could have had that. Like with Tecna, she could have been like Bones and for a while she kind of was but then they made her just like all the other characters.The sad part about that is, that Iginoi shouldn't have just assumed that kids couldn't understand or relate to darker themes (you know what they say about assumptions, they make an ass out of u and me) because they can. Even on a minor level...most every kid knows what it's like to go to a new school and be the new guy like Bloom in the beginning or Mirta when she transferred from CT to Alfea. And everyone knows what it's like to be the freshman.
Indeed here too, I don't know why all 'girls' shows have to be all glittery and pink. When I was younger I usually reverted to watching the 'boys' shows because I was sick of that same recylced cutesy 'lets go shopping and talk about boys' formula over and over again. Growing up--and now--I just couldn't relate because I was never into boys and shopping. Not gonna lie for the longest time I thought that I had to like boys, I thought I wasn't growing up (so to speak) because I didn't feel the need to talk about boys nor girls. We need more characters in kid and tween shows that have characters that don't talk about boys 24/7 and we almost had that with Tecna and Musa and at one point Flora and Layla too.
All of those are wonderful examples. Like in Spirited Away, the child has to save her parents because they were greedy and got themselves into a situation because of it. Shows like Winx should teach kids responsibilities. I really do wish kids shows were more adventurous. As an American I feel like censorship is way over done. My parents let me listen to and watch whatever I wanted to--perhaps that's why I'm so against censorship. I mean Christ, on one of the Winx books I bought they covered the Winx girls' bellies because apparently bellies are 'inappropriate'. Like chill, everyone has a belly! Right, parents and others are just so quick to assume a kid is gonna look at the Winx's bodies and want to be that skinny. My sister and I didn't even notice body types. We just liked the plot and the characters.
Yes please, Legend Of Korra just last year reveled that Korra is bisexual and I think that was a great step. The fact that Nick aired their first canon homosexual couple is great. I would love to see a confirmed canon asexual. I think children should be exposed to LGBT themes, so they know that straight isn't the only way to go. And Mirta very well could have been a sort of magical trans character. I'm just glad I was raised in an environment where I felt safe outright saying 'yo I'm an ace'. Sometimes I feel like kids are more open and accepting than adults. And as you said, it's so important to show kids that it's okay to not be heterosexual. It isn't bad by any means to be hetero. But they should know that there are other sexuality to. For a long time I didn't think there was a word for my lack of a sex drive. I wish there could have been a character that was ace so I could have had a word for it earlier on.
I also loved characters like Layla and Musa. That's probably one of the few things Winx got totally right. And bringing Nabu in was awesome too. There isn't as big of a lack of POC characters as there could be, but diversity never hurts. Honestly I connect more to the Trix than any of the other characters. As for one the trix are closer to ace than any of the others. And for seconds I'm a goth. And it really kind of does piss me off that Iginoi keeps ripping on the gothic fashion. As you said, they also had some really neat family interactions going on; they touched on adoption, the death of a parent, divorce, almost losing a sibling. But once the ordeal is done it isn't really focused on anymore. Which is a shame because those themes were really intriguing and some little children (unfortunately) are faced with divorced parents or the death of a parent. And a show like Winx could help them understand it. But no, they'd rather focus on shopping. It's cool that they encouraged taking care of the environment but they didn't write that well and that's not the only theme they could be focusing on.
Right, they really over did the go green thing. And the new plots weren't even original; they ripped off of LotR, kpop group SNSD, K-On, and another anime. And that was all in the season six theme song alone. They had so many other great themes already set up for them. They had three awesome villains with so much room for a good and more mature story but they took the lazy route and made them one dimensional. They went to hard with the go green when their energy could have been spent else-how.
OMG Finally someone that understand how I am feeling.I can totally relate to you because I was also never into boys,shopping or make up.I remember being annoyed that the girls in class always asked who my crush is and when I told them that I don't have a crush on any boy because I don't care about boys at all they wouldn't believe me and look at me in a weird way.I loved and still do love to watch magical girl anime/shows that have a good plot but I hate the fact that these show are always about girl getting obsessed over boy because even know that I am almost 18 years I still don't show any interest in boys.I seriously think that any future magical girl show should just ditch the stupid obsession over boys,fashion and make up plot.Part of the reason why I think that Magic Knight Rayearth is better than other magical girl animes is that the girls don't spend 99% of their time talking about boys,fashion and make up.Its true that the girls soon or later fall in love but it happens in a more natural way.
"And for seconds I'm a goth. And it really kind of does piss me off that Iginoi keeps ripping on the gothic fashion."
I also hate the fact that every villain in Winx Club is gothic.Like I said earlier Iginio's main problem is that he follows the Disney logic for villains way too much.A thing that I like about the magical girl show Trollz(I don';t know if you have watched it)is that one of the girls Onyx is actually gothic.It would be much better if Iginio would have done the same with one of the Winx Club girls instead of the stupid"good people wear bright colors and bad people wear dark color"idiocy.
"As you said, they also had some really neat family interactions going on; they touched on adoption, the death of a parent, divorce, almost losing a sibling"
Yeah they could have shown more about these themes.I find it disappointing that they never showed in season 1 what impact the divorce had on Sella.Instead they made it seem like she simply doesn't even seem to care about her parents at all.Thats one of the many reasons why I love the W.I.T.C.H. comics.The plot of the comics is overall very mature.They show us what kind of impact the divorce has on Will,how she finds it hard to accept her mother being with another man and I like the part in the 3rd arc when Will's father blackmails her mother in order to get the custody for Will.I also like how they portrayed the ruined relationship between Will and her mother because Will can't tell her that she is a guardian.The fact that Will gets into arguments with her mother is very realistic and something that almost every teenager can relate too.The death of Yan Lin was also portrayed in a pretty good way too.
I was gonna bring that one up. The only good goth was Mirta but then she turned fairy and lost that. At first not all of the witches were portrayed as bad guys (in fact Griffin seemed to be quite opposed to--and this sounds odd--using dark magic for evil) but by season 6, all of the witches and goths were on board with it. Yeah, I've actually seen quite a bit of it, used to collect the dolls. Right! I get costuming reflecting the personalities but we need more Umbridge's, more Nerissa's, more villains that don't wear all black. And more good guys like Regina and that chick from the Girl With The Dragon Tattoo who wear dark colors.
That too, I mean she had dreams about it and such but they never really showed what her childhood was like with that. I think that depends on the dub you watch, she seemed to care a lot about her father in season 3 of the 4kids one. She also seemed to really hope that her mom would get back with her dad. Exactly, W.i.t.c.h. does great with writing the family dynamics and balancing it with the main plot. That's also always an interesting sub-plot, the having to keep identities a secret to protect loved ones. Brings a lot of room for development between the two characters. I was really sad when Yan Lin died, that was one of the emotional scenes.
I was just talking about season 1 when I said that because it was one of the things that bothered me about it.Season 1 is the only season that makes it seem like Stella doesn't care about her parents.I am glad that they fixed this issue in the following seasons.I remember that in season 2 when they went to a vacation and were writing post cards to their parents and Stella got pretty sad.I also know that in season 3 Stella loves her father a lot and even earned her Enchantix by protecting him from the dragon.There were also some episodes on season 5 that were about her parents and how she wanted them to be together again.Still it would have been better if they would show more of her childhood.
However, this idea that it shouldn't have been Nabu because he was so cool, and he and Aisha were such a wonderful couple? I disagree with that. Fate doesn't care who you are, how happy you are, or what your plans for the future are. To use a literary quote: "The best-laid plans of mice and men often go awry." Nabu's death illustrated how unpredictable and unfair (in a figurative sense) life can be.
Instead of focusing on Nabu, let's focus on Aisha. I think she was a good character to express this through. Out of all the Winx, she's the strongest emotionally. Seeing her cope with such a tragedy and learn to be happy again is -- at least for some fans -- inspiring. She's had quite a journey on this show.
Oh, and by the way, her name means "life" or "alive." Is it possible Rainbow's putting her through crueler events of LIFE on purpose? If so, that's fascinating to me.
I don’t necessarily think that Winx needs to be like other kids’ shows but I don’t think it would hurt for the author to seek inspirations from other shows. I wouldn’t hurt for him to see what other shows are doing right so that he can better his own show. The goal of every author should be to improve the quality of his or her work as opposed to staying at the same level or, worse, getting lazy.
As for what the target audience should be; admittedly I am one of the firm believers that they should have matured the show with their original audience or at the very least kept the older original target audience. I really don’t like how they lowered the target audience at all–it came off to me as a money grab. They tried to pick up a new audience that didn’t take to the show and left many of their older and faithful viewers feeling forgotten/disappointed. I would have been totally fine with them keeping it aimed at 8-13 year olds. It was when they lowered it to 3-6 year olds that I was dissatisfied. Because it became too childish for me. Basically I liked what they had, they didn’t need to fix what wasn’t broken.
I do agree with you that the childlike simplicity isn’t bad. But I can’t blame people for being curious; for wondering what it would be like if the show did get maturer. I think the childlike simplicity has it’s ups and downs. The up is that one can just watch the show to watch it. It’s just fun and relaxing. The down is that (at least in the case of Winx) some characters–the villains mainly–are lacking depth and complexity. Even basic depth and complexity that is helpful in forming connections to characters even in kids’ shows. I guess what this boils down to though is that everyone has a different cup of tea. I myself am fond of more complex shows (but can get on bored with a simpler one) or at least a deeper underlying theme that an adult can pick up on if he/she chooses. And I totally get that that’s not for some people. And I think the first 3 seasons of Winx had that. But the show lost it when the target age was lowered.
I do enjoy Winx loads, but there’s also a lot that I feel like it has come to lack. i also admit that I did drop the show midway through season 6. But I love the first 3 loads and pretty much only offer those season praise.
I might just make an article of this as it's good discussion material.
I'm not saying Nabu should have been except from death because he's a cool character or whatever. I simply think it should have been someone else because I think it would have created a bigger impact if it was one of the other boys. I also don't think he and Layla were this perfect couple. In fact I was rather indifferent to them as a couple. So in that regard I don't think he should be able to by pass death. Again I just think a character like Sky or Brandon or even Riven would have made me more emotional (so to speak) than Nabu's did.
But that's a good point as far as seeing it through her eyes. Of all the characters she'd probably have coped the best. And she (from what I've seen of season 4) was a great character to see through the eyes of. However I still like to think of all of the other possible scenarios. This isn't a thing of bashing the show it's more or less me thinking about the many directions this show could have gone. I personally think it's fun to consider the different possibilities within a story.
Let me explain why I don't like the fact that Nabu had to die better:
Look I'm personally not the type of person that wants everything to be happy and thats gets mad when a character dies.On the contrary,I actually love darker stuff in which characters actually die which is one of the many reasons why I enjoy the works of Yuu Watase(mostly Ayashi No Ceres and Fushigi Yuugi),yes her mangas are for girls and have lots of romance in them but she still isn't afraid to break the"Stuff for girls has be all rainbow and butterflies"stereotype,the things she writes have violence in it,villains that do terrible things and many people who are close to the protagonist die.Now you might wonder if this person like dark stuff why is she against the death of Nabu?Its because his death was something doesn't make sense and contradicts the previous things that happened in the show,like when Sky was killed by Icy in season 2 it was a very dramatic scene but everything became good again because Sky is brought back to life again by Bloom's dragon flame because it turns out that with her powers she can bring people back to life again.The question is why should Sky be brought back to life but Nabu not?What makes Nabu so undeserving of being brought back to life again the same way as Sky was?The answer is quite simple,Rainbow wanted to add a dramatic scene but was afraid of actually killing one of the character that we knew since season 1 so the best option was killing a character that was introduced in season 3.Sorry but I don't accept a writer giving me basically some bullshit"its okay to have one character dying and coming back to life as long as he is the main characters boyfriend but a more secondary character deserves to die for good"excuse that Rainbow is giving us.It would have an bigger impact on the story if Sky had died because he was actually the boyfriend of the main character and it would do a much better job at showing the"You can't have everything in life"moral because it would for once add an irreversible tragedy in Blooms perfect life but no Rainbow did do that because they didn't want to ruin Bloom's super perfect life.Honestly its boring to see Bloom having a perfect life while the other "less"important characters had many tragedies happening to them.Favoritism like this annoys me it sends a wrong message that as long as you're popular you deserve to have everything that you wont from life which isn't how things work in real life at all.I enjoy seeing a main characters that goes through sufferings because it makes her more relatable and shows that you can't have everything in life.For example take a look at Aya from"Ayashi No Ceres",she goes through lots of emotional suffering and loses many people she loves,even her happy ending isn't exactly a 100% happy ending either.Honestly when it comes to Bloom I think that this is how the thought process of the writers goes:
Noo.Sky is dead,this will cause our poor angel Bloom suffering,lets give her new powers so that she can bring Sky back to life.Her future parents in law hate her?No problem,we will prove them that they wrong by showing them that Bloom is so good hearted that she is willing to help saving her love rival Diaspro.Thats all well and good but what about the fact that Domino got destroyed and her parents turned to stone?Poor Bloom we will give both her planet and parents back to her in the movie.Now Bloom has an awesome life but there's just one things missing that will make it absolutely perfefect,I got thats it,lets make Daphne's tragic sacrifice meaningless by changing it so that she actually didn't die but got cursed to be a spirit,than have Bloom undo the curse and bring her back to life.Thats just awesome.
"I'm not saying Winx needs to turn into a Shonen anime"
Shonen animes aren't the only ones that are dark.Shoujo animes can get pretty dark too.I just finished watching"Ayashi No Ceres"and it is a pretty tragic anime,it has many deaths,violence and lots of blood in it.Also Mikage is of the insanest anime villains ever.
"They can up the target audience if they wanted to."
This is just my opinion but I don't see why they should raise up the target audience considering that most teenagers and adults don't watch Winx Club.
@Ghost Once upon a time I would have argued that they should have raised it, but honestly at this point it's too late anyhow. If they would have matured it with the audience back in season 4 they very well could have had their original audience alongside some new teens and adults. However honestly, at this point they seem to have lost the original audience anyhow so there's no point anymore.
It is what it is. But I still am kind of curious as to how Winx would be if they did mature it.
Its a manga series written by Yuu Watase,the same woman who wrote Fushigi Yuugi.Its about a girls who's named Aya that finds out in her 16 birthday that she is the reincarnation of a celestial maiden called Ceres and her brother Aki is the reincarnation of their first Ancestor Shiso Mikage.The legend is like this:one day when Ceres was bathing,Mikage saw her and took her robe away and without out it she couldn't go back to heaven,Mikage than raped her,made her his wife and she gave birth to his child,afterwards she killed him,she also died herself afterwards.She gets reincarnated in certain female members of the Mikage when they reach the age of 16 because she wants to know were her robe is and Mikage as revenge.The Mikage family eventually noticed this and killed all the female members in which Ceres got reincarnated before they reached the age 16.So yeah on her birthday her grandfather tells her father that he must kill Aya and after he refuses,Aya's fathher gets killed by her grandfather.Aya's powers manifest and she manages to run away.And well thats just the begin of the story.Its very dark and tragic.It has many plot twists.The villains are quite interesting as well.Characters that you will probably like:Ceres(The woman on my icon XD.She's a great and very well written character.She's my favorite),Shiso Mikage(You love insane villains and he's as insane as it can get XD but he still a rather tragic character that has a reason why he is that way) and Kigami Mikage(the other villain.He's the kind of"I'm just doing the right thing"villain and has also a reason why he thinks that way).Its also only 24 episodes long.As I said before the reason why I love Yuu Watase's works mostly Ayashi No Ceres and Fushigi Yuugi is because despite the fact that her mangas are for girls and have lots of romance in them,she still isn't afraid to break the"Stuff for girls has be all rainbow and butterflies"stereotype,the things she writes have violence in it,villains that do terrible things and many people who are close to the protagonist dying.People praise Madoka Magica for being dark and I agree that it is but Ayashi No Ceres and Fushigi Yuugi are so dark that it makes Madoka look like a child's show in comparison.
Just do it.You wont regret watching it.
They'r all take home finals in the form of essays. So I'm actually gonna start typing one of the two remaining ones up right now. I'll respond to your other comments when I get done with that. And trust me, I'd much rather be discussing shows with you than typing these things. >.> <.<
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