This is an extended version of a टिप्पणी दे I left on a link after it was revealed that मॉर्गन would be the crossover character between TWD & FTWD.
I'm not all that enthusiastic about the idea, but it is technically possible दिया the two timelines. The way I see it, it could go down one of three ways. But first, a look at what happened when with Morgan:
-Day 60: मॉर्गन and his son Duane met Rick in King County, Georgia.
-Day 314: मॉर्गन met Rick again in the same town. Duane is gone, and मॉर्गन has set up all kinds of walker (and human) traps in town.
-Day 521-523: Morgan's bottle episode, Here's Not Here. This is where he meets Eastman, starts playing with his Ninja Stick, and lets a poor innocent goat get eaten.
-Day 531: मॉर्गन finds the "the new world's gonna need Rick Grimes" map, and starts the journey from Georgia to DC.
-Day 547: मॉर्गन meets Daryl and Aaron in Virginia.
So, according to my math, this is how/when Morgan's FTWD appearance could happen:
A) In the 254 days between दिन 60 and दिन 314. Either he and Duane traveled west during those 8.5 months and then returned to King County for Duane's death, या Duane got bit द्वारा his mother early on and मॉर्गन left द्वारा himself soon after. Either way, मॉर्गन has to get back to King County in time for Rick & Michonne's visit on दिन 314. That's 8.5 months, which is doable.
B) In the 207 days between दिन 314 and दिन 521. There's a 7-month gap from the time Rick and Michonne leave Booby Trap City to the time मॉर्गन sees the Terminus sign. In this scenario, Duane is definitely dead, so मॉर्गन probably won't have anyone slowing him down. Also doable, and in my opinion, और logical.
C) Fear the Walking Dead is getting a MAJOR time jump, and will now take place in the same time as The Walking Dead, meaning मॉर्गन will leave Virginia and head to Texas sometime during TWD's current season, which has already passed दिन 600. This is a terrible, ridiculous idea, but there are a lot of people who think this is how it's gonna go down, so y'all need to quit.
D) मॉर्गन is a wizard, and can Apparate, so all this timeline and travel speculation was a total waste of time.
The Walking Dead's pilot took place on दिन 60, and Fear The Walking Dead is currently on दिन 64 - only a few days ahead of मॉर्गन and Rick's first meeting. I believe the first timeline (A) is और likely, दिया how close the dates are. This means that मॉर्गन will meet Madison's crew before seeing Rick again, and it also means that his time on Fear the Walking Dead will be limited - he still has to get back to Georgia before Rick and Michonne दिखाना up on दिन 314.
Getting There:
Proctor John mentioned plans to "sail for what's left of Houston" in the end of FTWD S3, and FTWD is now filming in Texas, so my money's on Houston for the crossover location. (Scroll down for a map.)
I don't know how long it would take to get from Tijuana to Houston, because I don't know how the FTWD characters are traveling - if everyone reconnects, they could go together द्वारा sea; but if they remain separated, some characters might end up going द्वारा land, which is close to 2,400 miles. I also don't know what kind of route they have planned if they go द्वारा sea, या the condition of the canals, so I'm not gonna try to figure out a timeframe for Fear If द्वारा Sea.
गूगल says that आप can make the 2,400 mile drive from Tijuana to Houston in less than a दिन - so if Madison & Co. head for Texas via land with a lot of determination and minimal travel snags, they could be there pretty soon.
For Morgan, it's about 800 miles from Atlanta to Houston. गूगल says this drive can be done in about 11 hours. (Then again, गूगल does not account for things like running out of gas and herds of walkers blocking the road.)
For a long-distance zombie travel reference: it took मॉर्गन 16 days to travel 600 miles from Georgia to Virginia. (It took Rick and Team Family 25 days.) If मॉर्गन was able to keep that pace (about 40 miles a day), he could make it from Georgia to Texas in less than a month. But if the crossover takes place early on, which I believe it will, there are probably a lot और vehicles and fuel available, so that would probably cut the travel time. There's no way to know what will wind up in their paths, so the travel speculation is just to provide a little insight into the distance.
Here's a map, for आप non-US people... या US people who are just not great at geography.
Blue: The Gonzalez Dam, where we last saw Madison and her crew, is near Tijuana in Baja California.
Red: King County, Georgia, isn't a real place, but it's believed to be southwest of Atlanta.
Purple: At the end of FTWD season 3, Proctor John mentioned plans to "sail for what's left of Houston." This is probably where they'll meet Morgan. (This is also where Abraham started out, in the grocery store with his family, so why they didn't just pick him for the crossover is a mystery.)
Orange: Where TWD is now, in Alexandria, Virginia.
How do आप think it's gonna go?
* * * * * Post TWD 8A Update * * * * *
Now that the theories on Carl's bite are flowing and TWD is back to the center of attention, I'd like to focus on one theory in particular that could really set up the crossover.
The theory is that Carl's bite is from a Whisperer, not a walker. (There's a discussion about it link in this pick द्वारा misanthrope86.) I like this theory, because a) I'm very interested in seeing the Whisperers, b) it could make this random-ass crossover make sense, and c) even though I don't really care for Coral, I still think he has an important part to play, and Whisperer Bite means he'll live.
How could a Whisperer Bite make this random-ass crossover make sense? Well, if मॉर्गन were to travel to Texas during one of the aforementioned gaps and meet the Clarks on FTWD, it would be ALL KINDS OF SHOCKING if he met them again in Virginia on TWD. What does this potential reunion have to do with the Whisperers? Here it goes, people who have been living under a spoiler-free rock: प्रशंसकों have been theorizing that Madison turns into Alpha, the leader of the Whisperers, since before FTWD even began. If मॉर्गन meets them while they're just the Clarks, and then the Whisperers दिखाना up and unmask themselves on TWD, that's another one of those OMG reunions that TWD likes to throw at us. All roads apparently lead to DC, after all.
Arguments about this theory include:
"They कहा Carl is definitely dying." They also कहा there'd never be a crossover. And that Glenn was definitely dead during Dumpstergate. The word of the TWD gods means nothing.
"The walker that bit him didn't look like it was wearing a mask." Did आप notice in 8x04 when Daniel clearly tackled Ezekiel, then showed up dead 10 ft away in the अगला scene? link. TWD ain't perfect.
I think if they do go this route, the crossover will become a merge. Despite being possibly the best season of either show, FTWD S3 didn't have a lot of viewers. FTWD S3 got great reviews from प्रशंसकों and critics, and I've definitely seen और than one "FTWD is better than TWD" article, but TWD is still the powerhouse that makes AMC noteworthy. If the network has लॉस्ट faith in FTWD, and is only paying attention to numbers and not the fanbase (which would neeever happen), then they might be planning on throwing whoever's left after S4 या S5 of FTWD into TWD.
Thoughts on the new part of the crossover theory?
I'm not all that enthusiastic about the idea, but it is technically possible दिया the two timelines. The way I see it, it could go down one of three ways. But first, a look at what happened when with Morgan:
-Day 60: मॉर्गन and his son Duane met Rick in King County, Georgia.
-Day 314: मॉर्गन met Rick again in the same town. Duane is gone, and मॉर्गन has set up all kinds of walker (and human) traps in town.
-Day 521-523: Morgan's bottle episode, Here's Not Here. This is where he meets Eastman, starts playing with his Ninja Stick, and lets a poor innocent goat get eaten.
-Day 531: मॉर्गन finds the "the new world's gonna need Rick Grimes" map, and starts the journey from Georgia to DC.
-Day 547: मॉर्गन meets Daryl and Aaron in Virginia.
So, according to my math, this is how/when Morgan's FTWD appearance could happen:
A) In the 254 days between दिन 60 and दिन 314. Either he and Duane traveled west during those 8.5 months and then returned to King County for Duane's death, या Duane got bit द्वारा his mother early on and मॉर्गन left द्वारा himself soon after. Either way, मॉर्गन has to get back to King County in time for Rick & Michonne's visit on दिन 314. That's 8.5 months, which is doable.
B) In the 207 days between दिन 314 and दिन 521. There's a 7-month gap from the time Rick and Michonne leave Booby Trap City to the time मॉर्गन sees the Terminus sign. In this scenario, Duane is definitely dead, so मॉर्गन probably won't have anyone slowing him down. Also doable, and in my opinion, और logical.
C) Fear the Walking Dead is getting a MAJOR time jump, and will now take place in the same time as The Walking Dead, meaning मॉर्गन will leave Virginia and head to Texas sometime during TWD's current season, which has already passed दिन 600. This is a terrible, ridiculous idea, but there are a lot of people who think this is how it's gonna go down, so y'all need to quit.
D) मॉर्गन is a wizard, and can Apparate, so all this timeline and travel speculation was a total waste of time.
The Walking Dead's pilot took place on दिन 60, and Fear The Walking Dead is currently on दिन 64 - only a few days ahead of मॉर्गन and Rick's first meeting. I believe the first timeline (A) is और likely, दिया how close the dates are. This means that मॉर्गन will meet Madison's crew before seeing Rick again, and it also means that his time on Fear the Walking Dead will be limited - he still has to get back to Georgia before Rick and Michonne दिखाना up on दिन 314.
Getting There:
Proctor John mentioned plans to "sail for what's left of Houston" in the end of FTWD S3, and FTWD is now filming in Texas, so my money's on Houston for the crossover location. (Scroll down for a map.)
I don't know how long it would take to get from Tijuana to Houston, because I don't know how the FTWD characters are traveling - if everyone reconnects, they could go together द्वारा sea; but if they remain separated, some characters might end up going द्वारा land, which is close to 2,400 miles. I also don't know what kind of route they have planned if they go द्वारा sea, या the condition of the canals, so I'm not gonna try to figure out a timeframe for Fear If द्वारा Sea.
गूगल says that आप can make the 2,400 mile drive from Tijuana to Houston in less than a दिन - so if Madison & Co. head for Texas via land with a lot of determination and minimal travel snags, they could be there pretty soon.
For Morgan, it's about 800 miles from Atlanta to Houston. गूगल says this drive can be done in about 11 hours. (Then again, गूगल does not account for things like running out of gas and herds of walkers blocking the road.)
For a long-distance zombie travel reference: it took मॉर्गन 16 days to travel 600 miles from Georgia to Virginia. (It took Rick and Team Family 25 days.) If मॉर्गन was able to keep that pace (about 40 miles a day), he could make it from Georgia to Texas in less than a month. But if the crossover takes place early on, which I believe it will, there are probably a lot और vehicles and fuel available, so that would probably cut the travel time. There's no way to know what will wind up in their paths, so the travel speculation is just to provide a little insight into the distance.
Here's a map, for आप non-US people... या US people who are just not great at geography.
borrowed from freeworldmaps.net
Blue: The Gonzalez Dam, where we last saw Madison and her crew, is near Tijuana in Baja California.
Red: King County, Georgia, isn't a real place, but it's believed to be southwest of Atlanta.
Purple: At the end of FTWD season 3, Proctor John mentioned plans to "sail for what's left of Houston." This is probably where they'll meet Morgan. (This is also where Abraham started out, in the grocery store with his family, so why they didn't just pick him for the crossover is a mystery.)
Orange: Where TWD is now, in Alexandria, Virginia.
How do आप think it's gonna go?
* * * * * Post TWD 8A Update * * * * *
Now that the theories on Carl's bite are flowing and TWD is back to the center of attention, I'd like to focus on one theory in particular that could really set up the crossover.
The theory is that Carl's bite is from a Whisperer, not a walker. (There's a discussion about it link in this pick द्वारा misanthrope86.) I like this theory, because a) I'm very interested in seeing the Whisperers, b) it could make this random-ass crossover make sense, and c) even though I don't really care for Coral, I still think he has an important part to play, and Whisperer Bite means he'll live.
How could a Whisperer Bite make this random-ass crossover make sense? Well, if मॉर्गन were to travel to Texas during one of the aforementioned gaps and meet the Clarks on FTWD, it would be ALL KINDS OF SHOCKING if he met them again in Virginia on TWD. What does this potential reunion have to do with the Whisperers? Here it goes, people who have been living under a spoiler-free rock: प्रशंसकों have been theorizing that Madison turns into Alpha, the leader of the Whisperers, since before FTWD even began. If मॉर्गन meets them while they're just the Clarks, and then the Whisperers दिखाना up and unmask themselves on TWD, that's another one of those OMG reunions that TWD likes to throw at us. All roads apparently lead to DC, after all.
Arguments about this theory include:
"They कहा Carl is definitely dying." They also कहा there'd never be a crossover. And that Glenn was definitely dead during Dumpstergate. The word of the TWD gods means nothing.
"The walker that bit him didn't look like it was wearing a mask." Did आप notice in 8x04 when Daniel clearly tackled Ezekiel, then showed up dead 10 ft away in the अगला scene? link. TWD ain't perfect.
I think if they do go this route, the crossover will become a merge. Despite being possibly the best season of either show, FTWD S3 didn't have a lot of viewers. FTWD S3 got great reviews from प्रशंसकों and critics, and I've definitely seen और than one "FTWD is better than TWD" article, but TWD is still the powerhouse that makes AMC noteworthy. If the network has लॉस्ट faith in FTWD, and is only paying attention to numbers and not the fanbase (which would neeever happen), then they might be planning on throwing whoever's left after S4 या S5 of FTWD into TWD.
Thoughts on the new part of the crossover theory?
