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Proverbs 22:13-15 and child "beating"

"Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. Foolishness is bound in the दिल of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him."

Truthfully, this disturbs me a lot. Whether या not the bible is fiction या fact, asserting that children hit with a rod will not die is... absurd and immoral. It is a carte blance to grievious bodily harm.
Adding that, very often, people in a rage have serious difficulties controlling themselves, and the slippery slope of condoning the beating of fellow human beings, I'd say spanking is completely unjustifiable.

Let us say that from spankings we go to beatings and then outright torture, where does it end? Because according to the bible, kids don't die from a "beating", which it does not define what a beating is. So I could define it as torture for misdeeds and say that the bible condones torturing children. Now is this moral for whatever reason? Is the benefits from this course of action outweighing the downsides?
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Do tell if I got carried away with abhorring this. Because I suspect I did.
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Ok, I got carried off द्वारा this: link
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Dearheart said:
(Just a correction...it's only verse 15 that talks about that; not 13-15.)

My parents hit ME with a rod when I was little, and I didn't die. It was called "spanking". =P And thanks to the spankings, now I respect my parents and the authorities in my life, I don't talk back या disobey, I don't have an attitude problem, I don't do stupid things या get into trouble, AND...surprise, surprise...I think my parents are the AWESOMEST parents in the world and I प्यार them to bits! If anyone tries to tell me that spanking is "evil" या that my parents abused या "traumatized" me, I just laugh and laugh.

Quaila, I agree that beating and torturing a child is wrong, and not what God wants us to do, but I don't believe this verse is telling us to do that. आप have to look at it with verse 2 in mind: "Train a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not turn from it." It's not about beating your kid; it's about discipline and teaching him right from wrong. And it's telling us that if we DON'T do that, our children will grow up pretty screwed up. Which is true. If they don't know right from wrong, या that bad choices have bad consequences, they'll have a hard and painful road ahead of them. If आप really प्यार your kid, आप will do whatever it takes to teach him and get through to him before it's too late...even a spanking.

And there's a way to use "the rod of correction" without being abusive! For example, my parents NEVER spanked me as an outlet for anger. "Do not let the sun go down on your anger." Ephesians 4:26 They were firm and displeased, but never hateful, and always made it clear to me WHY they were spanking me and what I'd done wrong. And afterwards, after they let me cry and throw my tantrum, they would always come back in, take me on their lap, give me a hug and say "I प्यार आप and forgive you." That, to me, is the model godly spanking, and I see absolutely nothing cruel या immoral about it.

ANYONE can take a Bible verse and twist it to justify what they're doing. That's not God's fault, that's Man's. But a truly Christ-like, godly person will take time to look at it in context, study it, listen to what it's really saying, and THEN use it...not in their own way for their own purposes, but in GOD'S way, for HIS purposes. It's important to remember that.
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DISCLAIMER: I mean none of this in offense to anyone, and I'm not forcing आप to believe them. These are my own opinions and beliefs as a Christian, and I'm just trying to share them and help people understand them; that's all.
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Alright, thanks. *finds my rant completely destroyed logically* Yes, it was a rant और of a question, पोस्टेड in the heat of... abhorment... But alas, it's always comes down to Suum Quique in the end... To each his own, because I have and had a whole deal of psychological disorders and yes, Aspergers syndrome... But I guess that's me... *rants on*
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No, it isn't. I wa spanked as a child and I am now grateful for it. I was not spanked hard and only when I was being very shitty. I am a better person because of it.
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IshidaSado said:
I Am Also My Own Christian, And I Do Not Beleive That Homosexuality Is A Sin As Well. The Bible Has Been Written Over So Many Times And So Many People Has Modified It, That Your Not Able To Trust The Words Within It Anymore. The Ancient Text Was Burried Long Ago. So I Believe That Deep In Your दिल Lies The Truth, And What आप Honestly Feel Is Right For You. This Verse Seems To Me, To Be Saying "You Can't Be Beaten On To The Right Path, आप Have To Discover It For Yourself." *Edward Elric Quote* "You Can't Beleive Everything आप Hear About People Like Me, Even From Your Parents, Because Even They Can Be Wrong." This Is Exactly What I Think This Verse Means. If आप Were Only A Child When Your Parents Spanked या Beat आप आप Would Have No Other Knowledge But What They Wanted आप To Know! This Is Personal For Me As I Was Spanked Then Cuddled As Well. I Am Just Now Discovering God And Me Mission In The World, And I'v Resently Been Realizing That My Parents Are Racist, Against Homosexuals, Laugh At Others Missury, And They Talk Behind Peoples Backs. They Try To Tell Me Things Like Don't Forget या Forgive. I'm Sick Of It! I just Want To Be A Nice Forgiving Person.... Sorry for The Rant...All I'm Saying Is That No One Is To Say If Your Parents Are Right या Wrong...You Must Find Your Own Path...And Spanking Isn't A Fair Way to Let The Children Choose...
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 I Am Also My Own Christian, And I Do Not Beleive That Homosexuality Is A Sin As Well. The Bible Has Been Written Over So Many Times And So Many People Has Modified It, That Your Not Able To Trust The Words Within It Anymore. The Ancient Text Was Burried Long Ago. So I Believe That Deep In Your दिल Lies The Truth, And What आप Honestly Feel Is Right For You. This Verse Seems To Me, To Be Saying "You Can't Be Beaten On To The Right Path, आप Have To Discover It For Yourself." *Edward Elric Quote* "You Can't Beleive Everything आप Hear About People Like Me, Even From Your Parents, Because Even They Can Be Wrong." This Is Exactly What I Think This Verse Means. If आप Were Only A Child When Your Parents Spanked या Beat आप आप Would Have No Other Knowledge But What They Wanted आप To Know! This Is Personal For Me As I Was Spanked Then Cuddled As Well. I Am Just Now Discovering God And Me Mission In The World, And I'v Resently Been Realizing That My Parents Are Racist, Against Homosexuals, Laugh At Others Missury, And They Talk Behind Peoples Backs. They Try To Tell Me Things Like Don't Forget या Forgive. I'm Sick Of It! I just Want To Be A Nice Forgiving Person.... Sorry for The Rant...All I'm Saying Is That No One Is To Say If Your Parents Are Right या Wrong...You Must Find Your Own Path...And Spanking Isn't A Fair Way to Let The Children Choose...
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