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How many of आप are with Gay/Bi/Lesbion rights?

because i heard that in your bible, that God is against them, saying that the homosexual person will go to hell, if they do not change their ways. no offense but i just find that screwed up.
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Dearheart said:
Can of worms. आप have opened it. xD

First, let's be clear about something...did आप come to our spot looking for a fight, या do आप genuinely want to hear what we have to say? Being "open-minded" goes both ways, आप know. Are आप willing to try to see things from our point of view?

If so, then here's how I think most of us see it. We believe in God - Father, Son and Holy Spirit - and we believe that the Bible was inspired and dictated directly द्वारा Him. And the Bible states pretty clearly that guy with guys and girls with girls is wrong, both in the Old Testament and the New Testament. God designed romantic प्यार and marriage to be between a man and a woman only. Man and woman complete each other, temper each other and balance each other out...physically, emotionally and spiritually.

Look at it this way: can आप forge a sword using two tongs या two hammers? No, आप need one of each - one to lift and support the metal, and one to shape it into something beautiful and strong. Likewise, a godly marriage needs a man and a woman. They are both equally special and important, but in different ways. They fill each other's strengths and weaknesses and they both have natural, different roles to fill; roles assigned to them द्वारा the Ultimate Matchmaker to help forge a strong, healthy, godly relationship. Having two men या two women together upsets the balance and distorts God's डिज़ाइन for marriage.

Having कहा all that...does this give us the go-ahead to hate या disrespect gays, या mean that God hates gay people? Absolutely not...'cause there's this little thing called "love the sinner, hate the sin". While standing firm in the truth is extremely important, it's equally important to reach out in प्यार to people and दिखाना them the grace that our Savior showed us. Unfortunately, many Christians झूला, स्विंग to one of two extremes: 1) they hold on to the truth of God's Word so hard that they get obsessed with "being right" and forget to be loving. 2) They become so preoccupied with being loving that they let go of the truth completely just to make others feel better and they get all wishy-washy. Neither of those extremes are good ones. Finding the balance is the key, and a lot of Christians struggle with it; myself included.

I am NOT homophobic, and I hate it when people slap that label on me just because I disagree with homosexuality. I do not hate या fear gay people. I don't look down on them या resent them in any way. (Some of my mom's फ्रेंड्स are gay, and she's a pastor's wife!) If one of my फ्रेंड्स admitted they were addicted to drugs, I'd still प्यार them and care about them, but I'd do what I could to help them. I wouldn't drag them kicking and screaming to an NA meeting या anything, because आप can't force someone to quit; but I'd still pray for them, talk to them about my concerns and let them know that they can get help if they want to.
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(continued) Likewise, if one of my फ्रेंड्स ever came out of the closet, I wouldn't call off the friendship या force them to "pray away the gay". That's not how God works, and that's not how He'd want me to act towards them. But I'd still be open about my concerns and let them know where they could find help if they ever wanted it.
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LOL. xD Well, erm...thanks for the amen, and I'm glad आप agree with my answer...but if आप don't mind me asking, why do आप hate them? I don't dislike आप for saying so, but I still don't think that's a very Christlike attitude. येशु calls us to reach out in प्यार to everyone, especially the sinners and outcasts. "Jesus कहा to them, 'It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.'" --Mark 2:17.
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aks god before आप do something wrong and are bad
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thespikedturtle said:
Heck no! I think there's something wrong with that. If God didn't want people to be gay/bi/lesbian, than he could have changed it. Besides, a person can't help it if they are या not, they're born with it!
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So yeah, I agree with you.
thespikedturtle posted एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
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I didnt choose to be Bi and आप dont know how many times I considered suicide becuase of आप people
K5-HOWL posted एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
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God may have stated that sexuality is a din. But Adam and Eve were also naked until Satan gave them the idea of shame. And आप don't see us walking around naked! And K5-HOWL has an excellent point, there was a man who was murdered in his army base just because he was gay. Do आप think he wanted that? If he had the choice of being gay या not, he could have avoided that with ease.
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Cinders said:
I wasn't gonna touch this सवाल with a ten foot pole, for various reasons. The first of which, I'm not Christian, and since your सवाल addresses Christians, I don't feel exactly qualified to answer. सेकंड of all, I don't want to make Christians feel defensive in their own spot. And third of all, I've gotten into this issue several times in the past all across fanpop, and in all honesty, I feel I've exhausted it.

But after Dearheart's response, and reactions to कहा response, I decided to put in my two cents.

Someone's beliefs are their own. Question, but don't attack them. For example, calling someone's beliefs "screwed up" isn't exactly fair. Even if आप attach the phrase "no offense" to it. I am a big supporter of gay rights. I'm bisexual myself. But if people want to believe that that part of who I am is wrong, so long as they don't yell hate speech at me या trample on my rights, then let them. We have different perspectives, that's all. I try not to assume that my perspective is any और valid than their's.

I don't believe that their देखा गया that it is wrong should determine the laws, anymore that I believe vegetarian देखा गया should outlaw eating meat. But I'm OK with the fact that they hold those views. In fact, I'm even curious about those views, and have listened to interesting responses, like Dearheart's above me, for example. I still disagree - but it helps me understand their perspective more, and builds mutual respect, I think.

So be careful with these things. It could turn into a brawl, या it can become an experience for which both parties are the richer.
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I agree with this answer as well, very well put.
sesshyswind posted एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
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Just curious: @ Cinders, why are आप on this spot if आप aren't Christian?
MadamOcta13 posted एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
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I get that a lot. So I answer it here: link
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Frizzhead said:
I believe that आप are either born with a certain sexuality and as आप grow it becomes और obvious especially during puberty. I don't agree with the idea that प्यार between a man and a man या a woman and a woman should be seen as a sin. When has प्यार ever been a sin and why should it be.
I think the Bible is guidelines for life but there are parts of life whether आप have to choose between what the bible states and your own judgements and morals.

I am a Catholic and support gay/Bi/Lesbion rights wholeheartedly.I don't believe आप have tp choose between one and the other. I am straight myself but i hate the idea of people being discriminated against based on such a thing as who आप are attracted to. So to round it up ...no i don't think प्यार is a sin
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:3
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E-rock said:
Straight :D
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i was asking if u were with Gay rights या not -_-
K5-HOWL posted एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
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Oh lololol. i dont kow
E-rock posted एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
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so are u या not?
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fugiami said:
this is how i feel about it. . .adam and eve not adam and steve. but don't get me wrong, personally i have no problems w/ gay या lesbian people. i try to judge people द्वारा the content of their character but personaly i don't believe it is natural. like i कहा above, adam and eve not adam and steve :)
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I agree!
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आप shouldn't judge at all.
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JesusLover47803 said:
in my personal opinion i think that God still ♥ them but hate the sins
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and why does being gay HAVE to be a sin?
EmoCupCake posted एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
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Because it says so in the Bible. Or, to put it another way, God कहा so. 'nuff said.
faithinChrist posted एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
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OK. Right. This needs to be said. Just because it is in the Bible does not mean it is automatically true. God didn't make us. I don't want to put a faith in Christ that punishes people for loving.
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Loveaddict1234 said:
Dearheart is 100% right. Being gay may definetly be a hereditary thing but it has been कहा that murder is also hereditery and drugs and being a drunk and all of this. These things are sins none the less. But आप have to resist temptations, depending on the person आप are, those temptations may be strong या not so strong. Like आप have to resist the temptation of drugs, आप would also have to resist the temptations of same sex relationships, which could also be stronger than others.
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Well कहा :)
peterslover posted एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
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Being Gay isn't hereditary. That's like saying being shy is hereditary. It's not.
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Being gay is not a chioce, how many people do आप know who want to choose a life that usually lead to suicide, bulllying, discremination, there was even a boy who was murdered MURDERED for being gay. Do आप not know how many gays wish they werent gays because of the things that happen to them. >:(
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MadamOcta13 said:
Not true! God doesn't send people to Hell just because of that! That person can't help the way they are! No, it's how they act on those feelings that is judged. I'm Catholic, so what I was taught was that gay marriges aren't appropiate, because it has to do with the fact that God created man and woman to be together, not man and man या woman and woman. But just because आप feel that way doesn't mean that you'll go to Hell (again, I'm Catholic; other religions might have a different take).
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God also created Hermaphadites
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MissKnowItAll said:
Can opened... worms everywhere

But I am completely FOR!
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Lolly4me2 said:
I'm with the rights.
I have some gay and bi friends, actually...
I mean, that doesn't make God प्यार me any less, right?
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uscfever94 said:
I think that as long as we believe that God is our creator and येशु died on the पार करना, क्रॉस for our sins to be forgiven, in which he is our savior, then God won't banish us to Hell because we are saved. Correct me if I'm wrong but our salvation cannot be tooken from us once we have accepted Christ. All sins are equal so being gay is equal to telling a little white lie to get out of a speeding ticket या a date. Thats just what I think but I'd प्यार to get some feedback on my opinion.
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प्यार the आइकन
K5-HOWL posted एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
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I agree!
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LoopyLuna96 said:
Why shouldn't they have the same rights? They're still Human. Everyone has the right to love!
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sapherequeen said:
I am! :)
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In case this didn't make sense; I'm for Gay Rights. I myself may be bisexual.
sapherequeen posted एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
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Same here.
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