Arrow/The Flash Stars पूर्व दर्शन 'Bigger, Crazier' Crossover Event 

are going all-out for their second major crossover event (airing Dec. 1 and 2), which will launch the midseason spinoff

, and the efforts are earning high praise from their respective stars.

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“These two crossover episodes standing together will probably be, in my mind, the pinnacle achievement for both shows,”

leading man Stephen Amell raved during a set visit last month.

‘s Grant Gustin adds. “I feel like more people are a part of it this year from both sides, and we’re tying in

, obviously, so it’s just bigger.” Or as his co-star Danielle Panabaker sums it up: “It’s crazier. It’s nuts, but it’s great.”

Here’s what else we know about the superhero-filled episodes:

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IT’S A TRUE ‘TBC’ EVENT | If you’re only going to watch one-half of the two-part extravaganza, you might want to rethink that plan. Whereas last season’s crossover event was designed so that one could enjoy the episodes independently, “It’s not the case this year,” Amell says. “If you put them back-to-back on one night, they would run like one two-hour episode of television.”

when Vandal Savage (guest star Casper Crump) attacks Kendra Saunders, forcing Barry to take the Jitters barista/Hawkgirl to Star City so that Team Arrow can hide her. Thus, “most of the

episode takes place in Star City, and most of the

episode takes place in Central City,” Amell previews. “We have a common villain [in Vandal], which was not the case last year. And, just in general, we’ve done an excellent job of weaving not just two shows, but three shows together,”

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BARRY’S GAL IS SITTING THIS ONE OUT | “Sorry, fans,” says Candice Patton, but Iris is “actually not involved at all. I know that’s quite a disappointment to a lot of people, but she’s not involved in the crossovers that we have explored thus far. It doesn’t mean that we won’t ever see that. We know that crossovers have been extremely popular in our universe … so I’m sure we’ll have more.” Also not having much to do during the upcoming event: Joe West and Captain Lance. (Guess you don’t need cops when you have…

THERE WILL BE NEW DYNAMICS | “One of my favorite parts about the crossover is that you get to see people that you wouldn’t otherwise see interact” have scenes together, Carlos Valdes shares. “That sort of creates a mysticism, like fireworks about it. So fans can definitely expect a lot of new relationships to blossom, and new interactions to arise.” And what about some more exchanges between Cisco and his crush Laurel/Black Canary? After all, Team Arrow needs some help from the S.T.A.R. Labs crew with a weapon powerful enough to destroy Vandal Savage. “No comment,” Valdes responds with a laugh.

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THERE’S NO SHORTAGE OF COSTUMED CRUSADERS | Some leather-clad crimefighters may be missing in that above photo. We only count seven present, but “we shot a scene… that had, like, nine superheroes in it,” Amell describes in awe. “Nine people with either powers or supersuits. It was an amazing thing to look out over the scene and see the world that has been built over the course of three-plus years.”

THE CRIMSON COMET RETURNS | Although Jay Garrick “does not have interaction with the crossover characters, he very much has a story,” Teddy Sears reports. Per the official

episode synopsis, Harrison develops a serum to help Barry run faster, and asks Jay to test it out. (Hmm, could someone be getting their superspeed back?) Yet it’s a different character Sears wishes he had a scene with during the two-parter. “My first job was on a soap opera,

, with Brandon Routh (who plays Ray Palmer/The Atom),” he shares. “We both were hired about the same time, and fired about the same time for probably being equally as terrible and not really knowing what we were doing. So I was hoping that we could to have some stuff, just ’cause I haven’t seen him in a long time and it could be really funny.”

fans, what are you most looking forward to during the crossover?

I loved Cisco & Laurel’s previous interaction. Looking forward for more.

So Ray and White Canary are in the episode too. Really looking forward to LoT.

Why does Iris have to be excluded from everything, but Caitlin and Cisco aren’t? That clearly speaks to who the writers think is necessary and who isn’t. That’s pretty lame.

Next time, just ask why Iris is excluded without mentioning Caitlin and Cisco who appeared in Arrow before The Flash premiered.

Going to miss Iris immensely, she’s my fave (P.S. : “Barry’s girl” ? I dig it ;) )

Barry should be with his girl Iris, but we’re stuck with Patty for now lol

Right ? They are doomed anyways, because “She’s no Iris” so I’m not worried

I’m excited for Hawkgirl, she will be amazing I’m sure. But I hate that Iris West is not in the crossovers. She is the leading lady of the flash, she is part of team flash, so why she is not part of this big episodes? Iris West is one of my favorite characters and it is a shame she is not with them. Maybe she will be looking for Wally?

Barry needs her Gal Iris but the show want to keep them apart for drama and ~slow burn~. Go Kendra and spread your wings ;)

I’m disappointed that Iris West won’t be in the crossover, but hopefully she’s in the next one.

I simply CANNOT believe, that Iris West isn’t deemed important enough to be in these cross-overs!!! She’s an investigative reporter for crying out loud! Have her investigate the arrival of these new meta-humans in Central City, report on Zoom going after The Flash etc.!

The fact, that Iris and Westallen’s love story served as an important B-storyline in season 1 cross-over, when she WASN’T in on Barry’s secret nor a part of Team Star Labs, but only has One.Single.Line in this year’s “epic” cross-over is absolutely pathetic!

The Flash show runners and writers better never forget, that Iris West Allen is the heart and soul of Barry Allen’s entire existence, his lightning rod, the reason he even exists as a superhero. Candice Patton is Grant Gustin’s co-lead on this show, number 2 on the call-sheet. She has the show’s biggest fanbase for a single character outside of Grant, and definitely the most vocal one. A lot of people, especially women, are tuning in every tuesday night FOR Candice, Iris and Westallen. The diversity Candice Patton represents as a main character and female lead on this show is by far one of the biggest reasons, it’s the highest rated on its network. CW, Andrew Kreisberg, Greg Berlanti & Geoff Johns better not oversee or forget that.

I’m sorry but that’s just not true. Yes, I’m sure some people watch for Candice, Iris, and WestAllen, but she most definitely does not have the second biggest fan base and she’s not the co-lead. I feel pretty confident that more people watch for Wells and Cisco than for Iris.

Iris is popular and and her fan base are big and devoted. They love her as a character and want to see more of her, investigating and helping Barry saving the world. They want to see her included more in these big superheros event. She deserve to be there, and we are her fans deserve to have her there too. I don’t know why they are doing this to her. I do watch because I love the show but I love Candice\Iris a little bit more because she is amazing. Alot if people watch because of her and that is a good thing. I love Barry, Wells, and Cisco, they are amazing too <3333

Candice Patton IS the co-lead. She IS the female lead. Her name is second to Grant Gustin’s in the credits. Both Jesse L. Martin & Tom Cavanagh are veterans, thus they come last in the credits.

On twitter, tumblr and youtube Candice, Iris & Westallen have the BIGGEST presence next to Grant. Just search their mentions, and see for yourself.

Aww, I’m guessing, you’re a Caitlin Raymond fan ;)

Disappointed that we won’t be seeing Iris in the crossovers.

I’m sorely gonna miss Iris West in this crossover. Not sure how they can’t carve a space for her, but here’s hoping the back half of the season utilizes her more.

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