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posted by Ravenclaw2001
Let's just get this straight before आप go harping on my लेख because I'm a Twitard. Because I'm not. I'm just getting a little sick of Bella हंस being called "too perfect". She's perfect about to the extent that I am a Twilight fan. Which is to say, not at all.


OK, Let me tell आप a story about a REAL Mary-Sue.

Once upon a time, there was a girl named ऐनस्टेशिया B. Ana was in 6th grade, she was tiny for the age of ten (she skipped kindergarten), she was absolutely adorable, and she was in Gifted and 7th grade math. Boys all loved her, and she could crochet, knit, and she had perfect handwriting. She could play the शहनाई, क्लैरिनेट well and she was an avid reader. She was also very religious and sweet, never disrespecting her friends.

Does Bella हंस seem so perfect now? And now let's see what Mrs. Cullen/Swan has to say for herself.


Once upon a time,there was a girl named Bella Swan. She was beautiful and all the boys wanted her. She was smart and was horrible to her friends. She could play no musical instrument, and her handwriting is anybody's guess. Her religion is not mentioned enough to stick in my head, and when she got a boyfriend, her फ्रेंड्स left her only because she left them. She relies on her boyfriend for everything, and when he leaves her, she jumps off cliffs to hear his voice.

Does she sound so Mary-Sueish compared to Anastasia? And here's the twist: ऐनस्टेशिया is an actual person. Mary-Sues aren't just in books.


Here's my conclusion:

Bella हंस was written to be perfect. The small hints of her leading a perfect life, having no problems and consequences, etc. were meant to make her perfect. She was written as a Mary-Sue, probably unintentionally, and yet failed miserably.


PS... to zanhar1: Thank आप for making that point in my original draft. I changed it and really appreciate the tip. Thanks!
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I have actually read both series and liked Twilight okay, but Harry Potter rules for me!

First, the so often brought up topic... love, या lack thereof. Harry Potter consists of all sorts of love: family, parental, romantic, friend. Twilight consists of pure lust. Now for the evidence! Mrs. Molly Weasley killed Bellatrix Lestrange because Bellatrix nearly killed Ginny, her only daughter. The Weasleys all look out for each other, and even Percy apologized in the seventh book. They joined together in dark times, happy ones, sad ones, and when फ्रेड died. आप might say the Cullens दिखाना family love....
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I'm going to start doing लेखाए like this because I think it's fun and I just wanna see who thinks one character is better than the other.

Before आप guys start, let me tell आप my opinion. I think that Bellatrix is the better villan because she's mean, crazy and cruel but also happens to have good fighting skills, even though I hate her for hurting Hermione. She's also not afraid [potterheads correct me if i'm wrong] to kill others. She pretty much has the ultimate personality and guts that Villaness's have.

Those are my opinions. Now... feel free to add yours!! Enjoy:)
PREFACE - THE JEALOUS-FALLACY IN ITS MANY FORMS

Alright, I have already dissected one very common fallacy invoked द्वारा some Twilight प्रशंसकों and a few Harry Potter प्रशंसकों as well, the Edward-fallacy. I shall not discuss that one but instead I will be moving on and examine another common fallacy invoked द्वारा some fans, using what I believe is the two most common forms of it.

"YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS, THEREFORE YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID"

Firstly, let us examine the logical reasoning behind "You are just jealous, therefore your argument is invalid".
It is invoked when any प्रशंसक post an argument and employes this...
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first off i would like to say that i used to like t but everyone ruined it.

hp is so much better because its about friendship and standing up for your self it shows fear and judement and kind and tenderness which in twilight its just about useing people to benifit आप and doin iti mean in twilight, it takes edward and bella what a week to fall in प्यार it takes ron and herimone over 7 years and harry starts to relize he loves ginny after 5 years! and not to mention hp is fun for everyone some people might be afraid of the fact of a man eating vampire watching them not knowing when there going to attack out of hunger. so when आप "twilight" प्रशंसकों find some real evidence that twilight has any real moral to it let me know cause i really like to know wat आप think. या just टिप्पणी दे on this लेख PEACE, sy-sy
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