डिज़्नी प्रिन्सेस Unpopular डिज़्नी opinions (confessions)

viktoriya773 posted on Feb 10, 2014 at 11:53PM
Post your unpopular Disney opinion here. Express your opinion about not only DP but Disney in general. Please be respectful about each other's opinions and don't bash someone because of it. Say "I disagree/agree with you because..." I'm sure everyone is mature enough to handle it.

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एक साल  से अधिक पुराना scarletunicorn said…
Often times, when I see people depicting Elsa as being cruel to the other princesses for falling in love with men they just met, it just seems like they ignore Elsa's character and project their insecurities onto her (not all, but some single people have this mentality of "fuck those bitches with boyfriends/girlfriends they're all a bunch of sluts for not dating me!")
incisron commented…
Yes, I don't remember Elsa ever bashing या shunning men. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना KataraLover said…
I know people are going to disagree with me on this but I think Hercules is a genuinely bad movie but it's a bad movie that I like. I enjoy the music, the villain, most of the characters, and the animation is beautiful (though the designs suck). Hercules himself is okay but he's pretty much a meathead that has no common sense and relies too much on his strength and never learns to use his head, even though Phil keeps on telling him to. Shouldn't he know after the first time he did it that cutting the head of the hydra wasn't going to work? Plus those dang plot holes and bad story writing really makes it a bad movie but it's one that I enjoy. It's not something that's in my top 50 favorite Disney movies but I still enjoy it a lot but I admit that it's a genuinely bad movie.
UnholyNoise commented…
it's pretty poor quality, especially stacked against the एनीमेशन and pacing of the renaissance movies. it's like अलादीन turned up to 11,000. and the dialogue is terrible -- like i प्यार meg as a character, but i kind of want to पंच whoever wrote her lines, they're so over-the top, she's almost like a parody of '90s animated heroines -- in fact, all the characters seem like stock-character parodies -- and i'm sure it's (mostly) unintentional. a lot the humor is locked into the '90s too and honestly, i think the movie is aging badly because of it. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
MaidofOrleans commented…
I've only seen it once, and that was last year. I was so excited for it because so many people प्यार it, but it just left a bad taste in my mouth. The only characters I truly enjoyed were Hades and the Muses. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
I don't think there's such thing as a bad movie as long as आप like it. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना KataraLover said…
Aurora isn't as mysterious as people would like to believe. When I think of a mysterious character I think of characters like Black Widow from The Avengers movies. I mean, we know her personality but we didn't know her past until Age of Ultron. It explains why she is the way she is but still left us wanting more. People say Aurora is three-dimensional and mysterious because we have to guess what her personality is and basically project themselves onto her. She's basically a blank slate. Not knowing much about her personality doesn't make her mysterious or three-dimensional, it's actually the exact opposite and it more bad writing in my opinion. Aurora does have a personality but it's one-dimensional. If I didn't know better, I'd say that's why people hate the Keys To The Kingdom version of her where they give her a three-dimensional personality, which means they can no longer guess what her personality is or project themselves onto her. I even saw someone on youtube actually admit that they love Aurora so much because she's a blank slate.
sarchasm commented…
Well, I don't know if डिज़्नी did that intentionally, but the "blank slate" thing is लोकप्रिय in fiction. Often main characters won't be दिया much personality so the viewer can project themselves onto that character. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
324anna commented…
After giving it a lot of thought, I think I agree with you. Aurora is not mysterious, she's just boring. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
anukriti2409 commented…
I absolutely agree with you! She has no depth like human. She's so one dimensional एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना mhs1025 said…
(If there's already a princess with this, humor me.) What if they created a princess with anger issues? I'm saying this out of context because of 2 things. 1. It'd give girls with anger issues someone to relate to. 2. You guys have NO IDEA how MAD my brother made me today! (Kinda personal, but still, y'all should get my point.)
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KataraLover commented…
Well, go watch a Miss Piggy karate chopping video to दिखाना आप a female character with anger issues lol. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
Silverrose1991 commented…
Merida has some anger issues, imo (but this is just my analysis). Personally, I wouldn't like a princess with major anger issues. I watch DP to be happy, among other things, and I want the heroine to be happy, या at least calm. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
I agree with scarletunicorn. It'd be a neat idea, but everyone's gonna complain about it, just like they did with Elsa when they finally made a cynical female princess. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना JNTA1234 said…
I've never had a problem with portrayal of men in Frozen. The portrayal of men in Brave is what offends me as a male and I find extremely sexist. The vulgar, idiotic representation of adult men as crude immature simpletons who are constantly played up as a joke.

At least the men in Frozen are meant to be taken seriously. All the characters in Frozen, male and female, are equally two dimensional. Anna is a walking statement of "modern normal perfect girl to relate to" while Kristoff is "scruffy unconventional perfect guy". So they're equal. Elsa just serves as an audience avatar to "inspire" people and Hans just serves as a device to enforce the "it's not about boys" half in the movie's "it's not about boys, it's about sisters" message. So all four of them are equal, all four of them are mentally unstable, all four of them are portrayed as competent. The point is, with exception of Mr. Weasel whatever is his name, we're SUPPOSED to take the men in Frozen seriously, not as a joke like all the men in Brave. We're supposed to take Kristoff and Hans seriously as a hero and a villain. I agree that Frozen perpetuates stupid, poor and messed up ideas of feminism but it's portrayal of men is not one of them.
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Aang_Lite commented…
Hmm, I can sort of see where you're getting at, but I would have to disagree. Sure, the men in ब्रेव are used primarily for comic relief. This is mainly because the story revolves around two woman and their journey to understand each other. As a result, in order to balance the story, the majority of the characters are men. And when they appear they are used to lighten the story. If that was the only thing we see of the men in Brave, I would agree with you. But आप are forgetting the vital part that Fergus plays in the film. He’s supportive, he’s the one who raised his daughter to be tough and independent and he actually proves to be a good example of a husband who isn’t domineering, and who helps the girl find her own path. There’s a scene in the movie where he encourages Elinor to work through her issues with their daughter. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
Aang_Lite commented…
Although it’s a bit silly with how he imitates Merida to get Elinor to role-play, the underlying message is that he’s using humor to get his wife to open up, and he’s doing it all to help mend their relationship. That is not a man who is merely a comic relief idiot. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
I don't think the portrayal of men is sexist either (unlike Brave) but Anna and Elsa are certainly not two-dimensional. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना KataraLover said…
I personally like Shanti better in the sequel to The Jungle Book than I do in the original. She has more of a three-dimensional personality. She's responsible and she does fear the jungle (for obvious reasons) but she also has a fun and sassy personality and tries to overcome her fear in order to help a friend (even if the friend is mad at her). I never understood why people disliked her so much but loved her in the original movie. She was just a plot device in the original and was just there to lure Mowgli into the village in a way that makes him seem very shallow and emotionless about leaving his home. In the sequel she has an actual identity.
mhs1025 commented…
I've always heard people thinking of her as annoying and such. But that's just from MY perspective because I haven't seen the whole movie. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
MalloMar commented…
I like her in both movies, but और so in the sequel. I agree with you. I like that she seems to be a stick in the mud, but later reveals that she has fears and she genuinely cares about her friend. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना mhs1025 said…
I have a friend who thinks the 3rd Cinderella movie should've been the sequel. I still have yet to see that and the 2nd Cinderella movie all together, but who's on board my friend?
324anna commented…
आप mean that they should make the third movie second? That they should change the order of the two sequels? Could आप clarify, I'm apparently kinda slow lol. ;) एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
KataraLover commented…
^ I'm kind of confused too. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
mhs1025 commented…
I'm saying she thinks the 3rd movie should've been the 2nd one. I hope that जवाब y'all's question. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना JNTA1234 said…
I know this is gonna sound weird because Anna's my #8, Rapunzel's my #10. While I find Anna more entertaining and endearing, I genuinely think Rapunzel is the more well written character. I don't think Rapunzel's "quirkiness" and "marketability" is nearly as shoved in my face or as distracting as Anna's. In fact I think Ariel (an incidentally quirky princess) surpasses Rapunzel in that regard. I always find it so bizarre when people use the word realistic to describe Anna. Really? She feels like a caricature, like a cartoon. In fact, I think that's why the forced comedy works for Anna and not Punz, because Anna's so cartoony and in your face. While Rapunzel isn't exactly "Ms. realism" I find her more realistic, subtle and dimensional than Anna, I've actually meant quite a few girls like Rapunzel, my high school had a lot of them, though I think I've met a couple Anna..ish people. But honestly, I think Anna is two notches away from Snow White on the realistic scale, the only reason people seem to think Anna's more realistic is because the movie acknowledges her flaws, which is good but at the end of the day both Anna and Rapunzel have flaws in my opinion. I hate to say it but I think this may be a prime example of being spiteful towards a popular princess, Rapunzel, and wanting to champion for an unpopular one, Anna.

And yes, I do prefer Anna but when it comes to topics like character development, complexity and depth, I want to give credit where it's due. Let me put it this way, I also enjoy Spongebob Squarepants (Anna) more than Avatar The Last Airbender (Rapunzel). Get it?
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Aang_Lite commented…
I feel the exact same way आप do which is while Rapunzel's my प्रिय character, while Ariel and Anna are rather low on my list. Something just connected with me when I saw Rapunzel on the screen that never really happened with those two, but I that's a completely personal thing. And I also think she's one of the best written and developed characters डिज़्नी has ever made. Like आप कहा there's a lot of subtlety and dimensionality there. I guess what i'm saying is we both saw the same thing but just had different reactions to it. :) एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
AudreyFreak commented…
Most people seem to prefer Rapunzel to Anna, so I think this is rather popular. at least around here. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
anukriti2409 commented…
Firstly, i think this is one of the most aptly put confession and in-depth opinion i have read so far. I find others simply rejecting या loving a particular DP. I partly agree and partly disagree with आप on Anna's character. I agree that i also felt her character is over the चोटी, शीर्ष marketed and not justified enough to how she came about to be like that. But i disagree to the part her character is not realistic, i feel its not only realistic because she has flaws but also because of her reactions towards the situation she falls into - for eg: for a 21 साल old girl who's had no parental guidance and no exposure to the real world, she's shown rightly optimistic about the fact that her life will change for good when the door will finally open. Further how she thought she'll instantly connect with Elsa like she did in childhood but when she faces her she did hesitate to talk to her, again very realistic. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
Yeah I like how the movie acknowledges Anna's flaws. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना KataraLover said…
I think people mistake calling a one-dimensional character a bad character. I mean, I call Aurora a one-dimensional character and a lot of her fans get really bin out of shape because they think it means that they're a bad character. There is nothing wrong with liking a one-dimensional character and I think a lot of people just won't admit that a character they like is one-dimensional. I'm not just talking about Aurora but with a lot of other characters too. I mean, I love Gogo, Honey Lemon, and Wasabi from Big Hero 6 but they are one-dimensional characters, which I think is undeniable.
AudreyFreak commented…
I don't think any of them are one dimensional either, especially Gogo, who was shown to have some hidden depths (immediately taking on the leader role when Hiro went rogue, being the first to forgive Hiro and hug him of all things- snarky, cool Gogo of all people!). I think people confuse less screen time with being flat या one dimensional. a lot of us defend her because we're tired of hearing again and again how dull and bland she supposedly is when we see a lot of personality there. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
^ एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना AudreyFreak said…
I actually love Snow White's rag dress. it's one of my favorite raggy/peasant dresses in animation, though I don't know why. it's cute, and has a bit more character than Cinderella's rags.
Mongoose09 commented…
I प्यार it too <3 एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
dimitri_ commented…
They are my प्रिय DP rags actually, and I prefer it to her main dress. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
Me too. I प्यार rag dresses, including Snow White's, although I like Cinderella's more. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना missvantassel said…
i don't think prince Charming is boring, ugly or a jerk he's just less developed and is still a nice guy and cute too =P
wavesurf commented…
I agree with you! एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना wavesurf said…
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I guess I don't mind the "three-day-fall-in-love" old trope in Disney. It's not realistic, but Disney is about magic and illusion, not realism. But my personal issues are the cases where the prince and princess undergo the usual "three day period" with one another, but have practically "no chemistry" as a couple on screen ( I'm specifically talking about Tiana and Naveen, here, and Anna and Kristoff). This is one thing, among many, that makes those characters not enjoyable for me.


Secondly...

I also think there is a ridiculous new trope being touted in the Moderns: "love solves everything from being non-human to changing the weather!"

TPATF, Tangled, Brave, and Frozen, have romances and love themes that are largely thrust upon the characters' already existing non-romantic or non-loving natures. The romance or 'love" was just "there." I was left scratching my head as to "why." And the answer appeared to be that everyone involved in the movie as a protagonist was affected by some sort of spell as a plot development, so love was used as the familiar cure. I could say the following. Naveen and Tiana are a couple because they were compelled to be romantic or "in love" with each other in order to return to being human people. Merida finds out that loving her mother is probably the only thing that will prevent Elinor from becoming a real bear inside and out. And... Anna's longing for love was so great it compelled her to break Elsa's icy heart, and teach her a lesson about love and sacrifice.

Forcing "the romance" or "the love" does not work, in my opinion, not even for fixing spells on screen. It bearly worked for Elinor. (I know, I know. Sick pun). When you force romance or love, it comes across as just...a catch all panacea for everything. TPATF, Brave, and Frozen each specifically use " the love cure" as a plot resolution, to fix each one of the story's problems, instead of letting the romance or love concept become a side-note like it was in Mulan, TLM, and Aladdin. ( To some extent the "love cure" concept began in Snow White, and Sleeping Beauty, was present in Beauty and The Beast, and has been brought back IN FORCE as the "catch all save the day" resolution for ALL of the Modern /Revival films). It's weird, but I kept seeing this "love cures all" parallel in all three of these Modern movies, which each have the exact same set-up. Yes, the setting is indeed different in all three, and the characters may differ, but the plot is basically the same. Someone or multiple someones are cursed. Over the course of the movie, the protagonists find the romantic or love hotline and get the love cure, and all of their problems melt away: they become human again, they get their dreams fulfilled (restaurant), they stop being bears, they stop the freezing weather, etc., etc. It will all be okay--- as long as people love one another. ( It does not work like that at all in real life--- no amount of love can stop bad circumstances from happening; it only mutes some of the effects; love does not cure anything!) It's strange that the Revival movies pride themselves on being the LEAST FANTASTICAL of the Disney DP movies, offering the most realistic opinions ( so they say), while they still tout this MOST FANTASTICAL CONCEPT " that love will solve all of your issues." HUH. The Revival movies REALLY ARE more like Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, and Beauty and The Beast, than people first might imagine.

It's funny that the "love cure" between Ariel and her father, and between Ariel and Eric, did not help them defeat Ursula in the end. Instead, cunning and luck, actually helped to defeat Ursula. Falling in love did not help Mulan defeat Shan-Yu and save China. Falling in love certainly did not help Aladdin and Jasmine defeat Jafar. Again, like TLM, cunning and luck and the Genie's help were the real things that saved the day.

Of the Revival era movies, only Tangled narrowly avoids the "love cures everything" pitfall at first, because the romance is a side-note to the adventure of seeing "the lanterns," and defeating Mother Gothel. But then this movie also falls prey to the "love cures all concept," as Punzie sings her healing song of love for dead Eugene, and "love" in a released tear is the cure that brings him back to life. Maybe that's why I mostly find these Modern movies very much derivative: they're all copies of one another at the very core, and they only differ due to the setting, and the characters.

I wonder if Moana will have the same "love-cures-all" trope that ALL FIVE of the Revival films share. The Revival films have much more in common with their Classic predecessors, Snow White and Sleeping Beauty, and their Renaissance predecessor, Beauty and The Beast. I'm tired of Disney pretending to be "innovative" while actually being lazy, yet again.

And now I have discovered another reason why I like TLM, Mulan, and Aladdin LOADS more than The Princess and The Frog, Tangled, Brave, and Frozen. TLM, Mulan, and Aladdin all said love was important, but it would not save the characters from their problems or issues. Those problems or issues would have to be solved another way, external to love. And that is much less fantastical, and much more realistic.
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sarchasm commented…
Well, The Princess and the Frog technically wasn't "love cures all" thing, it was a "kissing a princess cures all" thing. Naveen was going to किस Lottie to break the curse, and when he kissed Tiana at the frog wedding he was already happy because he was with her, and wasn't expecting anything to be fixed. And द्वारा that logic TLM does have the same trope in many respects, as Ariel needs to get someone to fall in प्यार with her to break the time-limit on her human form and even the resolution happens because of Triton's fatherly प्यार for Ariel. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
wavesurf commented…
Actually, I do think it was a "love cures all thing" because Naveen does not प्यार Lottie, which is why her चुंबन him simply does not work. Mama Odie was not big on the "princess thing" but was big on Tiana "seeing how प्यार would make her life less narrow." एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
wavesurf commented…
@unholynoise: And I do agree with आप about Tiana and Naveen both being examples of excessive behavior. He is the epitome of laziness, and she is the epitome of a workaholic. Neither are good examples/role models, until they change their ways. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना scarletunicorn said…
I actually liked Age of Ultron and found it better than the first Avengers film (which is massively overrated). Don't get the hate for this film.
Bellatrix666 commented…
I liked Age of Ultron too, but I prefered the first one. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
scarletunicorn commented…
IDK, I found the first film very overrated and done to death- typical group of misfits are a bunch of jerks and don't stand each other until the end where they शामिल होइए forces to stop the villain. Been done to death. I thought Ulltron was better due to better characterization of the main characters, and the humor cut (a bit) to make room for some drama. It's not perfect but I think it worked well. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
wavesurf commented…
I also though Age of Ultron improved on what was started in The Avengers. The Avengers wasn't bad, but in Ultron, everybody's character was और fleshed out. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना wanderingchild7 said…
hmmm
My favourite Disney movie is Beauty and the Beast but I don't like the new added scene "Human again". I like the idea of the objects having some more screentime alone, but the tune is not catchy at all and while the scene is funny (more silly than funny, I think) it is not as funny as "Be our guest" or "Gaston". It also slows down the movie a lot and there are just too many songs at that part. I also think that this song doesn't really fit to the whole film. Except the scenes like "Belle" and "Gaston" (but these are supposed to show the simplemindedness of the citizens) and "Be our guest" (which is far more spectacular than the new scene) the movie has some dark and brooding but also magical and hopelessly romantic air and "Human again" is just simply too silly for me. When I was little I used to watch the original version and now when I would like to watch it online or when I'm looking for it on DVD I find only the new version with the new song. :( I don't know if I could get the old version anywhere on DVD... :(
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Silverrose1991 commented…
I don't know why, but I like the song only in the musical - I always watch the movie without it. आप know, on the latest DVD release, आप can choose wether आप want to watch the original version या the version with the added scene. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
MalloMar commented…
^Yeah, I noticed that. I guess I mostly agree with आप wanderingchild. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
wanderingchild7 commented…
Thanks guys! :) I didn't hear about the new DVD release, but I think it solved my problem. Thanks Silverrose1991! एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना KataraLover said…
I think Anastasia Tremaine is unconventionally beautiful. She was ugly in the first movie but that's because the animators were trying to make her unattractive, as opposed to the sequels where they try to make her facial structure and smile more appealing.
ntmfan0707 commented…
I totally agree! एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना JNTA1234 said…
I do think is unfair some people defend Pocahontas for being inaccurate but bash Frozen for being so far from the source material for purely subjective reasons. Just because the "Snow Queen was such an awesome fairy tale"
KataraLover commented…
I don't mind if it strays from the स्रोत material if it's an entertaining alternative from the original. I mean, OBVIOUSLY The Hunchback of Notre Dame isn't an accurate adaptation to the original novel (for obvious reasons). Pocahontas is an entertaining alternative and फ्रोज़न isn't, at least in my opinion. So when an adaptation isn't entertaining, that's when I get mad at not being faithful to original स्रोत material. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना scarletunicorn said…
I don't get people who bash Pocahontas for being historically inaccurate but let Anastasia pass, and in their defense they say bullshit like "uuuh well it's not that important/i care much more for Pocahontas". like, dude, what's your problem, i get America-centrism is a thing, but you can't brush off Russia's history. I'm not saying Pocahontas' problems aren't there, but I mean really...Dude, at least be consistent. Either you dislike both films for being inaccurate or you don't mind it. Don't see why you need to play favoritism considering they do the same thing (turn a brutal real life massacre into a fairytale princess story)
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KataraLover commented…
A lot of people do bash ऐनस्टेशिया for being historically inaccurate, especially historians and relatives of the Romanovs. People can't seem to understand that it's not the job of an animated movie to teach history because apparently people are so dumb they depend और on animated फिल्में to teach kids than teachers in school. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
AudreyFreak commented…
THIS. I hope since so many sjws do this it isn't race-based, that's stupid. I like both फिल्में but if anything Pocahontas seems less unrealistic than Anastasia's (especially since they discovered she is in fact dead). एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना scarletunicorn said…
Elsa would look cool with lose hair. i know most of the princesses tend to have long loose hair and it'd be refreshing to see more short-haired heroines and such, but darn i kinda like the idea of her hair lose. i find braids to be overrated in animation anyway. =P
wavesurf commented…
The braid does seem a bit repetitive. Rapunzel's hair was braided in Tangled, and Anna has two braids, and Pocahontas gets her hair braided द्वारा meeko या something...I don't remember. Anyhow, loose hair is all right on certain chraacters. I guess, डिज़्नी is trying to even out the hairstyles. But I never really paid much attention to the hairstyle, preferring what the character was "doing" at the moment. ( I'm an action person, myself). The nicest looking long-haired princess I've seen in एनीमेशन was Amalthea from The Last Unicorn, though. The unicorn in her human guise is far और beautiful than Elsa will ever be... but that is my personal thought. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
scarletunicorn commented…
I'll just agree with everything when आप admitted that Amalthea is the prettiest ever. XD एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
That's why she reacted when Anna told her about the freezing kingdom and built a snow monster. It's only when she learns her lesson that living in isolation will not solve her problems, she must face and truly let go of her fears, then her full potential can be realized. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना KataraLover said…
I know this doesn't apply to everyone, but I think fans of damsel in distress characters are hypocrites. I mean, they hate how damsels in distress are always being hated on while action girls are praised. However, they go right around and hate on action girls just because they're action girls and aren't girly or sophisticated or proper like damsels in distress are. Whether a character is a damsel in distress or an action girl shouldn't matter but rather their personality. There are damsels in distress that are good and there are those that suck, same with action girls. I wish people would stop hating on the other group of characters and just like them for their personalities. But while the fans of damsels in distress are hating on action girls for basically the opposite reason of action girl fans hating on damsels in distress, they're pretty much proving that they're no better than they are and end up being hypocrites.
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना scarletunicorn said…
I...I don't think Elsa and Jack Frost would make a good couple.
KataraLover commented…
Either do I. Plus, Jack is my प्रिय fictional character and I don't think Elsa is a good match for him AT ALL! Having ice powers doesn't mean it would be a good relationship. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
sarchasm commented…
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're just paired together for aesthetic reasons. Besides, Jack has the maturity of a 15 साल old while Elsa has the maturity of a 21 साल old. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
Aang_Lite commented…
लोल don't worry, I'm pretty sure that's a pretty common opinion, at least on here. I actually kinda really, really like the pairing. I प्यार the idea that with her ice powers Elsa could be the only one who could see him. And that since he's the embodiment of joy he would help her learn to प्यार her powers, instead of seeing them as a curse. I see them as bringing out the best in each other, especially if they meet when Elsa's younger, say right after her parents died. That's just my own headcannon though and I do admit that a lot of other people go a bit overboard with the Jelsa. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
AudreyFreak commented…
I dislike them as a couple so much. they have nothing in common. they have the same powers (roughly)- so what? I don't think either of them would get along with the other- not on a close level anyway. Jack is और like Anna. Elsa would probably find him as annoying as Bunny does at times. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना KataraLover said…
I know it's not official, but I consider Emma Swan from Once Upon A Time to be Disney's Snow White's daughter. I know that Once Upon A Time isn't canon to Disney but I don't care. It's mainly for selfish reasons because I ADORE Emma Swan and she's one of my favorite fictional characters. She's just plain AWESOME and I can't help but want her to be Disney's Snow White's daughter. Plus, unless Disney makes a sequel (which I HIGHLY doubt) where she gets her own child, I'm considering Emma to be her child and NO ONE is going to change my mind otherwise.
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना scarletunicorn said…
Joy and Sadness were boring and very annoying. Would have been better if Disgust and the others had been the main characters.
sarchasm commented…
What did आप think was annoying about them? एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
anukriti2409 commented…
wouldn't sya boring, but redundant. But thats the point, they will always be joyful/sad coz thats who they are एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
UnholyNoise commented…
They were both different levels of insufferable, imo. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना anukriti2409 said…
I have absolutely no idea why fans here hate modern versions of classic stories so much. I personally love Maleficent, Mirror Mirror and Cinderella and find them extraordinarily detailed. Awaiting Beauty and the Beast version so much!
AudreyFreak commented…
well, irl people seem to prefer them. and I don't know anyone here who hates Cinderella, it seems pretty well received everywhere. I've only heard one person not like it and they dont even hate it. but as for Maleficent, because it insults the original characters so much द्वारा portraying them not only as totally different people but less... likable. one is a villain, the villain is a hero, the परियों are incompetent idiots, etc. Mirror Mirror I don't think has anything to do with डिज़्नी but it looks like it's catered to the elementary school demographic and from what I've seen it looks very unfunny. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
Aang_Lite commented…
^ Basically everything Audrey said. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना mhs1025 said…
(Kinda personal, but humor me if this has already happened.) How would y'all feel if they created a princess with abandonment issues? You know, seeing a side of a potential new DP we haven't seen before? She could be abandoned by her parents or something. Then, at the end of her movie, she'd get over them when she finds/meets her true love. What would y'all think about that?
scarletunicorn commented…
Sorta like Megara? Would be neat, though I imagine she'd get a lot of haters for being "selfish" in their eyes. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
MalloMar commented…
I think that's a decent idea. Sounds sad, which I certainly don't mind in movies. That was worded weird, but I like your idea. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
also I agree with scarlet unicorn. It's a great idea, but create any issues for the princesses and she's branded as "selfish." It's the unfortunate truth. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना scarletunicorn said…
Do you guys think all disney princesses and modern heroines are pretty much Ariel, Belle and Jasmine expies
UnholyNoise commented…
Not all, but a lot of them are. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
AudreyFreak commented…
not all no, but the 90s girls (including Heroines and non-Disney girls) are terribly similar to those three. Only Jane Porter, Mulan, Odette, Poca (mostly), and Miriam really stand out. the rest are always wanting this vague idea of "more", have the famous 90s outbursts about what's wrong with their lives, sass adults/the villains, get out of trouble easily without help, and are clearly designed with the idea of being role मॉडेल for that generation of girls in mind. I'll concede Tiana and Merida do seem pretty 90s too, particularly the latter who is like, 15 years late. Rapunzel though, she definitely represents a branch of third wave feminism that advocates girly stuff AND buttkicking, something very uncommon in the 90s when women still needed to be just heroic. Elsa is a lot like the Classics even if डिज़्नी won't admit it, and Anna is a nice mix of Classic and Renaissance. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
Sigh आप can't satisfy everyone. The reason why most princesses are Ariel, Belle and चमेली expies is because those are the types of characters that are likable. Try a different personality like Merida and Elsa and everyone complains how much nicer the older characters are. Then put agreeable characters like Rapunzel, Anna and Moana and everyone complains what a copycat they are to the original. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना PrincessVT said…
tongue
I don't like Beauty and the Beast.
MalloMar commented…
I can admit it's well-made, but it isn't my प्रिय द्वारा a long shot. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
UnholyNoise commented…
oddly enough, i प्यार the movie but i'm not really into most of the characters. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
@misscinico they improved that in the 2017 version. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना KataraLover said…
I ADORE Ariel and Melody equally but I think from an objective and critical stand-point that Melody is a better character than Ariel. I mean, she does have a lot of the same traits as Ariel (since she's her freaking DAUGHTER) but also has her own traits. Ariel is very confident, a social butterfly, and comfortable in her own skin. Melody on the other hand is very insecure, shy, socially awkward, clumsy (on land at least), and feels like there is something wrong with her. She overcomes her flaws and learns to be comfortable with herself, admits she makes mistakes, and fixes her mistakes. I do think Ariel realized she made a mistake but Melody is definitely more developed than her and does fix her mistakes.
MalloMar commented…
I completely agree. Melody's a good character who isn't an exact copy of her mother as many think. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
MissCinico commented…
I surprisingly agree. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
wavesurf commented…
I disagree. I really can't stand Melody at all. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना scarletunicorn said…
Ok, as much as I dislike Frozen in general...I can't stop liking Let It Go. Sure, it's catchy, and super overplayed, and doesn't carry a good message in the context of the film...BUT outside of the movie, when listening without context or applying it to other non-Frozen characters similar to Elsa (have uncontrollable powers, can't fit in, self-esteem issues), it does come out as a badass, empowering song, promising to give us lots of badassery in time come. But...the film doesn't deliver.
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KataraLover commented…
I completely agree. The song itself is fantastic, it's just begging to be in a better film and sung द्वारा a better character. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
scarletunicorn commented…
^It's funny because I think the songs/score are really the best thing out of Frozen. For the First Time, फ्रोज़न Heart, Let It Go...The songs are good, it's the rest of the film that doesn't really work for me. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
I think Let it Go is a good song...but I think it fits in the film as well. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना Aang_Lite said…
I've just realized that Ariel would be the perfect boy. Almost all her negative traits, if as was a boy, would be seen as good qualities. Her forgetfulness and slight selfishness when it comes to her father's party would be seen as independence. Her willingness to trade her voice for love would be seen as romantic and courageous. Ariel's fans have probably known this already, but it's something I've just realized.
KataraLover commented…
Yeah, it's called a double standard. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
wavesurf commented…
Ta-da. Yup. But this makes me प्यार her anyway, tomboy that she is... एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
THIS SO MUCH. That's EXACTLY what I've been trying to say and आप just put the words out of my mouth! This is exactly why I think Ariel is a feminist character. She has a lot of "boy" traits. She's independent, romantic, fearless, and does the courting and saving. Like आप said, Ariel's प्रशंसकों have always known this but I didn't know how to put to words quite as eloquently as आप did. ;) अगला time I'll remember those words when I defend Ariel again haha. That's the beauty of Ariel. At last, आप see the light! (See what I did there)? एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना anukriti2409 said…
i think Jasmine is the least talked about princesses amongst all despite having such a strong personality. And she's the only princess who's been clearly overshadowed by her own prince.
scarletunicorn commented…
Maybe because she isn't the main character of her movie? अलादीन is. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
anukriti2409 commented…
^agree...wish she has her own movie too एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
coolsinger198 commented…
EXACTLY. Every time someone thinks about Aladdin, या it is mentioned, अलादीन is the person whose name comes uup. Don't get me wrong, people प्यार चमेली ( especially me since she's my favorite), but a lot of websites, लोकप्रिय यूट्यूब channels and critics act like अलादीन is the best. I perennially feel Jas is a better character. She's so strong emotionally and physically. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
I think चमेली gets और attention outside of fanpop. It's because we're too busy defending the classics from the rest of the world, fighting over Ariel and Belle, praising Pocahontas and मूलन and wondering if the newer princesses are worthier of our attention. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना KataraLover said…
I do think that Oz: The Great and Powerful is a really bad movie but I actually didn't think that Mila Kunis gave a bad performance as Theodora/The Wicked Witch of The West. A lot of people say her performance was cringeworthy but I actually thought she did great. I mean, she's definitely not the original witch from the 1939 film but that doesn't make her performance bad. She clearly really got into it and had a lot of fun.
scarletunicorn commented…
Eh, I find Oz good, on the level that it still portrays the characters as they originally are, and doesn't butcher them द्वारा making a cheap college AU fanfic of the story while saying "this is the TRUE story of the Wizard of Oz!!!!" SMH at Wicked... एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
Yeah I thought Mila's अभिनय was good. I'm not sure exactly what's cringey about it. Only because she had to play the "ugly" role and people aren't used to seeing her that way (usually she plays the beautiful, good characters). That said, I agree that the new Oz movie was terrible. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना MaidofOrleans said…
I dislike Rapunzel's braid. It's so thick that it looks really weird. The flowers are a nice touch, but can't save it.
AudreyFreak commented…
I'm just confused how it got so short. Braids do make your hair look shorter of course, but 70 feet of hair got down to 4 feet?! what kind of braid exactly did they do? एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
MissCinico commented…
^I think they did some sort of magic braid that goes up and back down entangling with itself, but I don't think the animators made it look that way at all so I'd have to agree with you. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
MalloMar commented…
What Audrey said. I like the braid, but it's...short. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
MaidofOrleans commented…
AudreyFreak and MissCinico I totally agree with you. The only way it could have gone from 70 feet to 4 feet is if it was braided up and then down and then up over and over again, but the braid doesn't look like that's what was done to it. It's just confusing and not very pretty imo. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना mhs1025 said…
I think Frozen is still kinda over-hyped. (For those of y'all who don't know what 'over-hyped' means, it means overrated.) Yes, I'm glad the movie was successful, and yes, it was good, but sometimes, it still gets ALOT of attention.
MalloMar commented…
^ एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
UnholyNoise commented…
i agree! but this is not an unpopular opinion :) एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
mhs1025 commented…
^ Granted how लोकप्रिय it is या not, I needed to get that out there. ;) एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना KataraLover said…
I don't find Meg from Hercules to be attractive AT ALL! I think she's ugly. I love her and she does have some pretty moments but overall is ugly. I HATE her body, her hair looks like is has 100 bottles of 80's hair gel in it, her facial structure is too bony and sharp, her nose is too pointy, her smile is creepy, she has turtle lips, and WEIRD eyebrows. Yes, I know that's part of the style of the animation but that doesn't mean that it's good or that she's pretty. I love her but I NEVER understood why so many people find her to be so stunning.
MissCinico commented…
I agree. As a child I thought she'd stay the villain just because she looked evil to me. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
MalloMar commented…
*Shrug* She definitely looks unique. I can see how some might say she's ugly. I disagree, though. I'd have to agree with the weird eyebrows thing. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
incisron commented…
She looks weird. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना MissCinico said…
I love magic in Disney movies especially when it's a witch or a fairy-godmother, BUT (and this is sort of weird) I hate it when they have pointless "magical" aspects to them, like wings, wands, crowns and horns especially the WINGS. I sort of like a witch to have a classic bubbling cauldron and fairies to appear to be a normal maid then have magic just shooting from their fingertips. I don't know, but I've noticed I tend to appreciate movies that don't over-do it with whimsy more. *cough Maleficent cough*
wavesurf commented…
It's okay not to like all "the bells and whistles." I mean, Cindy's fairy godmother in the 1950 version is kind of plain and simple. But she's nonetheless magical. I did find Merida's witch very funny in running a woodcarving boutique/business on the side. Her कौआ, कौवा and झाड़ू were hilarious. Mama Odie and Juju gave off the "cultural/religious voodoo magical" vibe. But it's okay to not have to like things that SCREAM magical. I mean, it's okay to be you. I personally find Ursula my प्रिय villain. She has no wings, no magic wands, no majestic clothing, no horns, no magical cane या staff. Ursula has a burbling volcanic cauldron, really red lipstick, and two misfit associates. But she nonetheless gives off a magical whimsy that few villains in डिज़्नी have ever matched. ;) एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना vintagelace said…
Here goes... I don't like the music in Frozen, and I don't like Idina Menzel's singing. I just felt like the songs weren't memorable at all- like they made attempts at certain emotions, but the emotions ended up being hollow, if that makes any sense. And I really really don't like the pop or R&B or whatever style Idina sung "Let it Go" in. Not to mention the way she emphasizes her "L"s really bugs me. (It's not just her, it bugs me when Gonzo from the Muppets does it too!)
wavesurf commented…
I agree with everything आप said, honey. All of the songs in फ्रोज़न are forgettable, and will only become और "dated-sounding" as time passes. I think the Lopezes should STICK to crafting ONLY songs for Broadway, and get out of the songwriting business for Disney, altogether. They don't have the skill to write songs for plot-driven films. They can only write plunky/clunky पियानो Broadway tunes. And you're right. Idina Menzel can't sing: she can shriek really high notes at the चोटी, शीर्ष of her voice. That's it. Why everyone thinks she's this awesome singer is beyond me.... Her voice is pitchy, screechy, and is devoid of richness ( sounding hollow as आप said). एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
UnholyNoise commented…
Idina Menzel's voice makes me want to shove broken glass in my ears. I like Elsa, the song is okay I guess, but her voice is awful. That last "let the storm rage oooonnnnn" actually makes me prefer the radio version, which everybody rightfully hates, just so I don't have to hear her screeching. yikes. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
WinterSpirit809 commented…
Actually the deleted songs were really good-I agree. Although I liked the movie, the संगीत wasn't the best. They should have kept songs such as "We Know Better" and "More Than a Spare." Those songs would make the plot so much better and add और to the movie than Let it Go and Fixer Upper, would have. But no, they had to take those out of the movies. *sig* एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना scarletunicorn said…
Honestly, if you guys hated Frozen then you won't like Wicked either, since it's just the same thing but set in the Wizard of Oz.
MalloMar commented…
I think I'd like Wicked, based only on the songs I've heard. फ्रोज़न and I have a strange relationship. This will sounds weird since फ्रोज़न isn't an old movie, but I have a nostalgic connection to it. I guess it was just one of those फिल्में I obsessed over even before it came out and continued to like it. I think I'd grown very close to certain फैन्पॉप members because of our "Frozen Fever". I agree that it's far from perfect (songs aren't "paced" well with the movie, some dialogue is very cheesy, a lot of it has been done before, there are plot holes, etc.) and I know some प्रशंसकों can be irritating. I don't worship it and I wouldn't even call it a favorite, but I can honestly say I enjoy it for the most part. It's a sweet movie. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
MalloMar commented…
My apologies for rambling and for not staying on topic... एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
scarletunicorn commented…
Wicked is basically प्रशंसक fiction tbh, like think a College AU fic of the Wizard of Oz. But honestly one of the worst. They massively change all of the good characters from the original to be all these saps and Mary Sues and cliched characters. The संगीत is nice, but it'd belong better to an original story than to Oz. Maybe I'm biased, since I प्यार the original Oz movie and books, and Wicked just changed everything for the worst. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना scarletunicorn said…
I like Let It Go but I don't like it when people only apply it to snow and ice themed characters and such. Since the lyrics are so vague, you could relate them to any other type of magical power one character can have. It could be about fire, or telekinesis, or anything else, really. Just as long as it's supernatural...I myself like applying it to mutant characters like Jean Grey or the Scarlet Witch (i know that sounded really stupid).
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना mhs1025 said…
I saw something in the Moana Fanpop article saying Moana will have like "normal body proportions". I'd like to say something about that-I don't care what her body looks like. She's already beautiful. I just want to see what her character is going to be like when her movie comes out.
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MalloMar commented…
I agree. I also think that a lot of the DPs have "normal body proportions". Look at Cinderella, Mulan, Snow White, Pocahontas...I personally think they look "normal". एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
mhs1025 commented…
^ Me too. I also think Merida has "normal body proportions". Yeah, she's alittle on the curvy side, but I still think her body looks normal. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
AudreyFreak commented…
yeah, I don't like the sneaky little undercurrent of body shaming some of these people (intentionally या not) do. "FINALLY, a heroine with a REAL body! Now that's a good role model there!" Wut? एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना wavesurf said…
Hmm. Well, I finally watched TLM 2, again. It's an okay movie, and one of the better sequels, but I still feel like it is missing something. Mostly, I think it is Melody herself...who is very uninteresting. I mean, Melody is just the reverse of Ariel and wants to be a mermaid. Unlike Ariel who wanted to be a human in order to explore what was above the sea, learn from books, and have her questions answered about "how things worked"--- by contrast, Melody just wants to escape being "a social pariah." In a way, Melody has more in common with Elsa than she has with Ariel. Melody and Elsa both run from their problems, are social pariahs, and think people are deceiving them by telling them the real truth about their actions!! And although Melody finally throws the trident to Triton, that moment is oddly reminiscent of Elsa getting rid of winter by waving her arms and shouting, "It's love!" Overall, I still get the vibe that Melody is only a half-finished character--- just like Elsa. I'm not saying that that is totally bad... I mean, Melody predates Elsa by YEARS, of course. Aside from a few incidental differences ( like ice magic and Melody being able to pick up the magic trident herself), it's interesting that Melody and Elsa have basically the exact SAME story arc: they are sheltered girls thinking their families are the problem, and they think that being by themselves is the solution. In one of the rising action sequences of both Frozen and TLM II, the heroine is confronted by her family member ( Ariel telling Melody that she is making the wrong choice; Anna telling Elsa that she is making the wrong choice... See the resemblance? So Frozen is a rip-off of TLM II in a way...) I'm just saying that that is what separates this movie from being on par with the original The Little Mermaid. Melody is okay, but I found Ariel to be way more convincing as a heroine in her youth. Melody mopes around like Elsa does. Elsa mopes and builds an ice castle, while pretty much blaming Arendelle for not being able to accept her; Melody mopes and swims around collecting a few seashells, and blames her mother. In her younger days, Ariel did not handle her isolation so poorly. Ariel occupied herself with hobbies: keeping a collection and hunting for human stuff; thirsting for knowledge and observing humans to better understand them without being prejudiced. What is noticeably different was that though Ariel disagreed with Triton's rules, she did not blame her dad for thinking the way he did. In contrast, Melody blames Ariel for everything. Ariel was even more of a heroine in her role as a mother capable of making mistakes. To me, Ariel was definitely convincing as a mother. I guess, Ariel was always facing the results of her decisions, whether they were good decisions or bad ones. Melody and Elsa... ? They just ran, ran away; they would not face their problems until someone called them out on it, and by then it was almost too late to do anything to save the situation.
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anukriti2409 commented…
i संपूर्ण, कुल मिलाकर agree with your perspective how similar फ्रोज़न and TLM II are in terms of the storyline. I partly agree with some of the resemblances between Melody and Elsa. i think their personalities were quite different though. Melody never wanted to be alone while Elsa resorted to loneliness. overall, i always felt Melody was a happy, bright child whereas Elsa come out to be as pessimist and detached kind of person. Melody looks like she had an open दिल and open mind, she was momentarily disturbed द्वारा the lie of her mother whom she trusted. But Elsa has serious trust issues with herself and people around. I'm not sure if their personalities resembled but somehow their reactions/situations resembles somewhat एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
wavesurf commented…
^^ Yeah. I'm not saying Melody and Elsa are exactly identical personality-wise. Melody is definitely much और cheerful about it than Elsa. But their reactions to their situations definitely parallel one another. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
MalloMar commented…
Never thought of that before! :O एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना beautybeastfan2 said…
I don't get what people hate about Cars 2. I like it better than the first one.
Diazdiaz95 commented…
Me too, it has less of a plot but I don't mind that. The first Cars is kind of boring IMO but at least Cars 2 is fun and focuses और on comedy than trying to go the typical पिक्सार route of making a "deep" movie. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना wanderingchild7 said…
I don't think that Be Prepared from Lion King is one of the best villain songs. Everytime I see a list about villain songs this one is nearly always in the top three. For me it is in the middle of my list, but mostly because of the scene , but as a song it fails for me. As I said the scene is cool, but I find the melody extremely forgettable. I prefer songs with catchier tunes that I can sing or at least hum (like Poor Unfortunate Souls, Friends On The Other Side or Hellfire).
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एक साल  से अधिक पुराना scarletunicorn said…
The Lion King is very overrated, and not that good imo. The last time I saw it i found it so full of flaws I just couldn't enjoy it. it has a good message, but everything else aside from the score kinda bothers me.
wanderingchild7 commented…
I totally agree. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
mhs1025 commented…
Unrelated, but the last time I saw the movie, I got addicted to it. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
incisron commented…
It was good, but I wasnt wild about it. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना mhs1025 said…
Related to my previous confession, I don't get why people body-shame the DP's for like being too skinny or something. THEY'RE JUST CARTOONS! Yeah, if we had a DP who was all skin and bones, it'd be one thing, but they need to stop body-shaming the current DP's because to me, they look normal.
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MalloMar commented…
I agree. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
"it's hardwired for us to find healthy slim people attractive." Not really. In some historical periods, plump women were actually considered attractive. Plump, not obese. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
^^Sorry to hear about that mhs. Glad to hear you're doing better. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना pretty_angel92 said…
I don't find Cinderela beautiful or a great role model as many of you say, especially here on fanpop. she's VERY overrated

and speaking of overrated princesses, omg why is Aurora getting so appreciated recently? i don't get it. she's probably the most boring and weakest princess. yeah she's beautiful but..is there more?


it annoys me that Elsa has more fans than Anna and is also more recognized. if it wasn't for her song "Let it go".she wouldn't have half the popularity. Anna is so much more likeable and has a lovely personality. Elsa is always depressed and scared, and even when she reveals her new look, she's still the same insecure person who doesn't do anything. Anna takes the risks, Anna is smarter, Anna is braver. where's the love for her?

the hate for Merida is ridiculous. i think the majority of the hate comes from the fact that she's from Pixar. cause seriously, what do the other DP have that Merida doesn't, aside from a musical number?
why is she always low on people's lists?



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Diazdiaz95 commented…
I agree with several things आप said: I don't think that सिंडरेला was that pretty (more like average) and I don't think she's the best role model of the lineup either. Aurora is one of the और boring princesses IMO too but I do think there is और to her but not as much as the others because of her lack of screen time. I much prefer Anna to Elsa and I agree that Let it Go is probably the main reason why everyone knows Elsa better. I don't get the Merida hate either, I haven't seen it much recently but I do feel that some people still don't count her along with the others. I प्यार Merida. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
MalloMar commented…
Live-action सिंडरेला या animated? Both? I think she has a moderate amount of प्रशंसकों definitely not too much. I think she's attractive, but not one of the most attractive. I guess the role model thing is completely subjective. I think the animated सिंडरेला was a better role model than the live action. I personally like Aurora, I don't have a problem if आप don't. I do agree with आप about Anna. I think she's a better character than Elsa and should be और recognized. She IS the main character, after all. I don't see much Merida hate recently to be honest. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
Elsa being scared and depressed and insecure is EXACTLY why I like her as a flawed character. I keep hearing how people want princesses who "have disabilities","have issues", etc and when डिज़्नी gave us Elsa, a character like that, people complain about how lame and flawed she is, but that's the POINT. She's supposed to be FLAWED. I do like Anna though. I agree with आप she has a lovely personality and hate it when people call her stupid and naive. I call her fearless and selfless and loyal, with a fun and bubbly personality. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
And lots of people have सिंडरेला low on their pretty lists, so she isn't that overrated in terms of looks. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना scarletunicorn said…
I always dislike fanart that turns around the roles of Anna and Elsa, portraying Elsa as this smooth "bad-a" and Anna as this sniveling coward whom big sister has to save. It should be the other way around, imo.
wavesurf commented…
^^ Huh. They're ACTUALLY DOING THAT? *shakes her head even more* Totally agree with you! एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
MalloMar commented…
Ugh. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
Yeah the fanart is inaccurate but it doesn't bother me anyway. I kind of enjoy it. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना MalloMar said…
I actually like Aladdin's animation. Yeah, it's inconsistent and cartoony, but I don't really mind that. It isn't one of my favorite styles of animation, but it looks phenomenal in comparison to it's sequels.
I like the character designs, the backgrounds and the colors.
anukriti2409 commented…
i प्यार it too.. the characterization is so great, unlike any other DP movie that i tend to ignore slips in animation. The Agrabah city is so well conceptualized and designed, in my opinion. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
scarletunicorn commented…
I like it too. I much prefer the डिज़्नी फिल्में with soft and round character डिज़ाइन over the sharp edges they gave to characters in Pocahontas या Hunchback. The characters there never looked right to me, they looked too squared... एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
shanyuisboss commented…
I like Aladdin's animation, I don't adore it, but it is really nice. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना anukriti2409 said…
I honestly dont understand how people compare moral values and personalities of Classic vs. Renaissance Vs. Modern. The DP from each era are so characterized because that's how people were in that particular era, they believed in certain set of values and executed in a specific way. Now the digital age is already here, which our next generation will be most close to and they won't understand and relate to previous eras as much. Doesn't mean any of them aren't good enough as Classics or vice versa.
wavesurf commented…
^Everything in a movie is, at least, partially a product of its time, just as आप said. Outside of that, traits and moral principles either fall into good या bad categories. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
Diazdiaz95 commented…
* but I like that choice* Both of आप are pretty good at discussing differences of opinion while still understanding each other and being civil and not attacking या accusing, I admire that :) एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
anukriti2409 commented…
^thanks a lot Diaz! it means a lot to me, really. Sorry, didn't see आप टिप्पणियाँ earlier :) एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना scarletunicorn said…
I don't get how most people have a massive hate-boner for Frozen, while they adore Tangled. They're pretty much the same thing for me. (I'll say Tangled is even worse, but that's just me).
anukriti2409 commented…
I can say Anna and Rapunzel are very similar personalities but फ्रोज़न and टैंगल्ड are way different. Who's like Elsa in Tangled? Who's like Eugene in Frozen? I personally dont have massive hate-boner for फ्रोज़न and don't enjoy people irrationally criticizing it either but for me टैंगल्ड has better defined charcaters and plotline than Frozen. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
I प्यार both! I agree with unholynoise. It's just a backlash. If टैंगल्ड was a successful as Frozen, आप bet my नितंब, गधा that there would be major backlash and everyone and your mom and your mom's dog is gonna hate it. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
disnerdtobe commented…
लोल "massive hate boner" for फ्रोज़न XD एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
एक साल  से अधिक पुराना KataraLover said…
I consider the characters in Once Upon A Time to be Disney characters for the following reasons:

1.The show is owned by freaking Disney!
2.It has several Disney characters in the show like Belle, Ariel, Cruella De Vil, Phillip, Merida, and so forth. If it has that many characters that are Disney, I think we can consider other characters in the show to be Disney.
3.Emma Swan has her own page on the Disney wiki.
4.Even if it's not exactly like the Disney characters we know and love, it's just as Disney as Maleficent (except it's actually good).
Diazdiaz95 commented…
I guess I do agree, except about Maleficent, which I liked lol. एक साल  से अधिक पुराना