Most pro-woman DP movies?

Sleeping Beauty, Pocahontas, मूलन and Tangled. Films where the heroine isn't shamed for being girly nor does it put women against each other for terms of girliness/tomboishness (Tangled maybe, but it's not like Rapunzel is a tomboy against Gothel's girliness- Rapunzel is perhaps the girliest of the DP imo).

Ultimately, ब्रेव is the only DP movie I think doesn't fit this all that well- Merida is far too "Look everyone! I'm a strong, independent woman! I do traditionally masculine things and don't want to get married!!!" But even then, the entire movie is about her having to repair her relationship with her mother and in the end she has to accept her mother's diplomatic ways and her mother has to accept her forceful ways, which I think is pretty nifty.

I suppose I can see your point about BATB being low. While I think Belle fits very well as a traditionally feminine character who is allowed to exist in that, there is a bit of Bimbette-shaming in there which, while being और intellectually based than femininity based, is still a bit alarming.

I would agree that Sleeping Beauty and Pocahontas are good films to be toward the top. Both दिखाना good relationships among the female leads. The परियों wield the power in Sleeping Beauty and Pocahontas certainly has some issues she must overcome in the movie. However, I don't think girliness is really a factor where those two फिल्में are concerned. Aurora is certainly very overtly feminine, but really, the fairies- aren't. Well, okay, Fauna is, but Flora and Merryweather certainly are not. Pocahontas even और so. Neither she nor Nakoma is very traditionally feminine, aside from Nakoma checking out Kocoum.

I must say I don't see where you're getting फ्रोज़न या मूलन from either. Anna and Elsa are both very flawed. Anna is very traditionally girly. Elsa may not be so girly, but I'd say she's feminine, just in a और queenly sense. Neither Anna nor Kristoff really has an upper hand- Kristoff has और experience in the terrain, but he's never really ordering her around either. Anna does use the carrots to blackmail him into following her, but after that she never really wields any power over him either. I suppose having a male villain could count as "competing with men," but then are we only going to allow women to be evil?
मूलन has many traditionally feminine characteristics, at least as many as Pocahontas, I'd say. In fact, it is many of those very feminine characteristics (loyalty to family, selflessness) which motivate her to शामिल होइए the army in the first place. While she can't truly succeed trying to embody the ideal feminine image, she can't truly succeed trying to embody the ideal male image either. मूलन was fully knowingly and willingly going to enter into an arranged marriage for the sake of her family. In fact, of the Renaissance princesses, I'd say either मूलन या Belle is the most like the Classics. She certainly doesn't work against the men, in fact, she relies on them for her very life, and she is never working against her mother या grandmother.

I'd rank them like this:
Top- SB, Pocahontas, Mulan, PATF (UnholyNoise has a good point), Tangled
Middle- TLM, अलादीन (not much female presence, but flawed & feminine leads), Frozen
Bottom- SWat7D, सिंडरेला (evil step-mothers), BATB, Brave

Sleeping Beauty and मूलन are worthy of the चोटी, शीर्ष spots, imo.

Sleeping Beauty has three elderly, not conventionally attractive, all-around unconventional female heroines. It shows wonderfully positive relationships between women.

Mulan... I can't see why you'd place it near the bottom, Audrey. मूलन is free from gender expectations, being allowed to be as feminine या tomboyish as she wants. And although she fights a war and saves China, the girls back at her hometown who sucessfully arrange a good marriage and effectively please their families are never shamed for that - neither are Mulan's mother and grandmother rebuked for wishing she would settle down. The only problem in all of this is the Emperor's infamous quote: "You don't meet a girl like that every dynasty." *Roll eyes*

AudreyFreak, we know, आप don't think मूलन (movie या character) is as [insert commonly used adjective] as people say it is, and I see where you're coming from. However, I must agree with Silverrose, मूलन and Sleeping Beauty are the clear cut winners. They're the least sexist in that neither gender is portrayed as weak, मूलन makes great commentary on gender roles in society. Sleeping Beauty obviously has the dominant female cast. And along with Tangled, their the only two फिल्में where the male lead isn't belittled. With that said, टैंगल्ड is solid third place. Not to mention both Aurora and मूलन have traditionally feminine characteristics.

[sigh... again, 'feminist" as a slur या being taken to mean things it does not -- feminism isn't opposed to women अभिनय girly and isn't against portraying flawed women. Do take note, everyone who says feminists don't get knocked here.]

For all of Frozen's flaws, it does a decent job at putting men and women on the same playing field -- Anna is a far cry from the heroine-as-moralizing-device लोकप्रिय in the renaissance movies, a trope i think is harmful to women, and even और harmful to men.

I'd pick PATF -- Tiana is never really in competition with Naveen, her flaws are called out, and the movie really drives घर the point that she needs improvement just as much as Naveen does. And though डिज़्नी does poke a little fun at Charlotte's girly-ness and her princess obsession (and i guess therfore at its own past making "princess movies"), she's ultimately portrayed in a pretty positive, and even heroic, light. And bonus points for being one of the few DP फिल्में to दिखाना an actual friendship between two women.

1. Sleeping beauty, all reasons said.
2. Tangled, Rapunzel is very girly and Gothel is feminine too
3. Princess and the frog, Tia and Lottie are very different but neither of htem is bashed.
4. Snow white and the 7 Dwarves, Snow White is very girly and uses her housekeeping skills to earn her keep.
5. Pocahontas, she and Nokoma are very different but not bashed.
6. Cinderella, feminine heroine and feminine villains.
Frozen, anna is still called an idiot for liking true प्यार so its lower.
7. Brave, two different women but Elinor is shown as wrong for wanting Merida to behave and Merida is right for liking boy stuff.
8. Beauty and he beast, Belle is smarter and better then all the men and also the girly Bimbettes
9. Aladdin, और pro-dude a movie lol
10. Mulan, all her choices are for men and she has to hide her womanhood.