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Did Ursa kill the Firelord before Ozai?

I forget his name. Anyway, I feel like an idiot for not getting this, but is the reason she had to leave and everything because she killed him? Sorry, but I'm totally confused!
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avatarkorra1 said:
I think Ursa did kill Azulon, there's nothing that explains Azulon's sudden death except the propability of Ursa killing him.
From what I got from watching the अवतार is that Zuko was going to be killed द्वारा his father, since Azulon thought it's only fair if Ozai felt the same way as Iroh did when he लॉस्ट his son (Ozai suggested that he revoke Iroh's birthright.and he should take Iroh's place as the अगला आग lord).
Ursa the decided to take Zuko's place,
from my point of view she came up with a plan to kill Azulon, so it will be like a win win situation(Ozai the अगला आग lord, zuko is spared).
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Exactly!
SkyBendingVee posted एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
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couldn't have कहा it any better
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glittergirl42 said:
she was too much of a good person. i think Ozai killed his dad and Ursa took the blame and was banished. she wouldn't do something so horrible, but Ozai would. That's my theory!
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u open ur eyes to the possibilities!
FeelmySwagger posted एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
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yeah, i guess its possible, but she was such a good person... i honestly think ozai would do it, though.
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thanks!
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kitmolly123 said:
I don't think so.I think the reason why Ursa had to leave was probably a different reason.Maybe she broke a law या something,and maybe that's why she was banished.
That's how I see it anyways.
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zutaraforever said:
well she had to sop ozai from hurting zuko so in order to do that she had to make him become the आग lord and i dont know what the heck happened to ozai's father so i think so.
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NightFrog said:
It's strongly implied that she did, anyway. Ozai कहा that was why she was banished (of course, I think he was lying about banishment, because that's too simple and there's too many holes in the story). Ursa कहा earlier in the episode "Zuko Alone" that Azulon was in perfect health, and in the end of the episode, it turns out he died. सेकंड्स after his funeral, Ozai was crowned आग Lord.. So he apparently told them या wrote down that Azulon wanted him to rule and not Iroh.

I think she did kill him, but I'm iffy on the banishment.
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OK thanks! :)
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ihro wasnt आग lord bc his blood lines were cut off and azluon कहा tht bc ihros 1st born waz killed tht ozai had 2 kill zuko ans so his mom had 2 protect him
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@Violet, yep :) @Firebender-16, I didn't say Iroh was आग Lord, I कहा he was अगला in line when Azulon died because he was older. Ozai only had to kill Zuko because he heartlessly insisted on letting himself be आग Lord directly after Lu Ten's death. It was a punishment.
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ya i knew tht ihro wasnt going 2 b firelord
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Firebender-16 said:
she didnt kill him because he went in to war with the अवतार and he waz defeated but aang didnt kill so hes still alive hes just in jail but ursa left bc she needed to protect zuko and weve havent seen her since
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...I was talking about Azulon. But thanks.
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o well he died of old age
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obssesedTDIgirl said:
Ursa was banned because Zuko was supposed to originally be killed द्वारा the आग nation something. But instead, Ursa took his place and instead banished her. That's why shes not there. She didn't kill anyone. आग Lord Azulan died of old age, not द्वारा murder.
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' Zuko was supposed to be killed द्वारा the आग nation', I don't think so
avatarkorra1 posted एक साल  से अधिक पुराना
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He was supposed to at his young age because they कहा something about "death of the first born son"Which is Zuko.
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but iroh didn't kill his son himself, did he?
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Sylarfan said:
I think what happened was in order to save Zuko she made a deal with Ozai that if he didnt kill Zuko, she would help him become आग Lord, so I think they murdered him together but not before rearranging his will, and then he banished her for killing the आग Lord
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FeelmySwagger said:
I think she did kill Firelord Azulon. Remember ozai told zuko in the ep, in season 2 ''zuko alone'' that his mother, Ursa committed some attrocities and she was banned. we all know ursa loved zuko very much and when she learnt that he was going to be killed she decided to kill him <azulon> first. Remember her last words to zuko? ''everything i have done is to protect आप <including murder> never forget who आप are!''
There is a high possibity that Ursa killed her Father-in-law.
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DLaci said:
She probably did but I wonder how she got Azulon to change succession. He seemed pretty adamant that Iroh was to be आग Lord and that Ozai should be punished for even suggesting he betray his first born. What leverage did Ozai and Ursa use over him? (I'm fairly certain that they both worked together somehow to kill him.)
Couple things I can think of. The first route is the और clean-cut and boring of the two: the will Azulon left declaring Ozai आग Lord was a fake, made द्वारा Ursa या Ozai या some(likely silenced) forger.
But the सेकंड one is so much और interesting to me. What if Ursa was half waterbender and a bloodbender besides? And she controlled him into लेखन that will and then killed him using bloodbending? While there's little evidence that really points in that direction it does make a certain degree of sense. After all, Ursa's mother/father was a child of Roku's and considering Roku was the avatar, they probably had a different perspective on the world and maybe even met people from other nations. And maybe, just maybe, it would explain why Ozai seemed so cold toward his wife and indifferent about her disappearance. It would also give her a place to go where she could be relatively incognito: the Northern Water Tribe. या maybe she had a bloodbender friend from one of the water tribes who helped her with the deed instead. It's grasping straws I know but I just don't see how else they might have been able to make Azulon create a will like that. Sure they could have tortured him, but that would be too suspicious and obvious.
And just a note to anyone who nay-says the fact that she killed Azulon: there's a clue within pretty much the first मिनट she's on the screen. Zuko throws रोटी at a turtle-duck chick to दिखाना his mom "how Azula feeds turtle-ducks." The mother बत्तख, बतख comes and bites his leg. Ursa detaches the bird and says "that's what Mom's are like. When आप bite their babies, they are going to bite आप back." What do आप think Azulon was doing, ordering Zuko be killed द्वारा his father? He was attacking Ursa's baby. So she "bit him back." Not only that but there's too much coincidence around Azulon's death for Ursa not to have been the one who killed him. Less than a दिन after Ozai's told to kill Zuko, Ursa shows up in the middle of the night to impart some last मिनट wisdom and a fair well to Zuko. In the morning Azulon's dead, Ursa's gone, and Ozai's semi-emo acting. Not only that but Ozai pretty much flat out SAYS she killed him when Zuko confronts him on The दिन of Black Sun.
I suppose I get why आप wouldn't want to believe she'd do something like that but her character was devoted to protecting her son. She wasn't some sweet little angel, like all the characters on the दिखाना really. Mothers can be tough as nails when their शिशु are threatened.

TL:DR? Wondering if it's possible Ursa is a bloodbender, see above for explanation, and if आप think Ursa didn't kill him you're either naive या in denial.
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RedX said:
On the दिन of Black Sun, Ozai finally shed some light on Ursa's mysterious departure to Zuko, and revealed that Azulon did indeed order him to kill Zuko. Ursa learned of this, and wanting nothing but to protect Zuko, she proposed a plan to Ozai, fully aware of the consequences, which she accepted. The specific details of the plan were not revealed, but it resulted in the death of Azulon, Ozai's ascension to the आग Nation सिंहासन in Iroh's place, and Ursa's banishment from the आग Nation for doing "vicious, treasonous things".[4] <<<<<<<< Got this from wikipedia :/ from this information it explains she did although the makers of अवतार are making a new book Called "the search" that continues off from the last episode and they are working on a chapter about the ursa mystery coming this 2013 ;) check it out
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